Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Fast+Skip Build 17017 for PC Insider

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  1. Posts : 94
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Ver 1809 OS Build 17763.55
       20 Oct 2017 #510

    duvl said: View Post
    Try this perhaps assuming you have access to usb, dvd, and another Windows 10 install disc. Download from post 471 onto usb. Plug usb into your pc. Boot pc to load from dvd w10 other disc, choosing repair my pc and nav to command prompt to then use copy function. See post 444 2nd fix obviously changing the ? to point to your applicable locations and also change path as necessary.

    Ian
    Cheers Ian

    Already had Win Recovery USB just copied file onto that and did the copy in cmd window.
    All is fine i have got in but now looking for a soloution to roll back to stable version without a fresh install.
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  2. Posts : 7,567
    Dual boot Windows 10 FCU Pro x 64 & current Insider 10 Pro
       20 Oct 2017 #511

    thorrrr said: View Post
    Cheers Ian

    Already had Win Recovery USB just copied file onto that and did the copy in cmd window.
    All is fine i have got in but now looking for a soloution to roll back to stable version without a fresh install.
    Are you getting any GSODs/BSODs? If not, I find the build very stable after my volsnap.sys work-around.
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  3. Posts : 94
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Ver 1809 OS Build 17763.55
       20 Oct 2017 #512

    HippsieGypsie said: View Post
    Are you getting any GSODs/BSODs? If not, I find the build very stable after my volsnap.sys work-around.
    HI
    I have only just fixed it 30 min ago. I had been running it from 14 Oct so no idea why is BSOD have not added or installed anything.
    This makes me wary of it so was thinking it would be safer to go back if i could.

    I have the settings below so i guess if i stop Insider i am stuck on this build.
    Just looking for a stable build which slow normally is.
    I guess i happy to see if it remains stable.

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  4.    20 Oct 2017 #513

    Hi @slicendice,

    Just to confirm my Fast ring set-up has NOT re-introduced un-installed Apps.

    Actually wish i could remove more!!!!
    (Xbox 3D OneDrive)

    Roy
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  5. Posts : 7,567
    Dual boot Windows 10 FCU Pro x 64 & current Insider 10 Pro
       20 Oct 2017 #514

    thorrrr said: View Post
    HI
    I have only just fixed it 30 min ago. I had been running it from 14 Oct so no idea why is BSOD have not added or installed anything.
    This makes me wary of it so was thinking it would be safer to go back if i could.

    I have the settings below so i guess if i stop Insider i am stuck on this build.
    Just looking for a stable build which slow normally is.
    I guess i happy to see if it remains stable.
    We were all warned in the beginning that with Insider builds anything could happen. Some of these problems are machine specific.

    Without the windows.old folder there is no way of going back. I doubt if a repair install will help, but here is the tutorial: Repair Install Windows 10 with an In-place Upgrade Installation Upgrade Tutorials

    You may be able to perform the volsnap.sys work-around during that.

    If this is your main rig it's advised that you clean install FCU.
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 v1809 Build 17763.134 (Branch: RS5 Release Preview)
       20 Oct 2017 #515

    hawkman said: View Post
    Hi @slicendice,

    Just to confirm my Fast ring set-up has NOT re-introduced un-installed Apps.

    Actually wish i could remove more!!!!
    (Xbox 3D OneDrive)

    Roy
    Thanks for this info!
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  7. Posts : 7,567
    Dual boot Windows 10 FCU Pro x 64 & current Insider 10 Pro
       20 Oct 2017 #516

    slicendice said: View Post
    About the difference between Fast Ring and Skip Ahead. There should also be other differences between them. In skippy all inbox apps should be reinstalled to the latest beta version, while on norml Fast Ring Windows should remember what inbox apps the user has removed.

    I can't verify if this works right now, as I don't have any machine on Fast Ring (2 x physical PC are on Release Preview and 1 VM on Skip Ahead). If someone can test and verify my theory, it would be highly appreciated.
    Not quite sure what you're getting at, Slice, but after some peering here it goes.

    If you mean what I consider the push-on-me/us useless game apps like Candy Crush, etc. that I keep uninstalling, then no. Neither fast ring or Skippy has reinstalled those or any other apps I've uninstalled. There were some unwanted apps that couldn't be uninstalled that I never used and never saw the light of my Start Screen that are no longer there on both branches.

    Looking at my "Download and updates" in my Store app after clicking on "Get Updates" in both branches there are some apps that have an older version in fast ring and Skippy has newer. Not sure why, for it's my same Store library.

    The Store app has a newer version and CV code (whatever that is > security code?) in Skippy than in fast ring.

    There is another difference I've noticed. I think MS has taken a different approach. Instead of pushing unwanted apps on us, They have introduced a "Suggested" category in the All Apps view wherein it gives choices as seen below. That is in Skippy and none in fast ring.

    Not saying it's not the same build, but after looking the branches seem to have different packages.


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  8. slicendice's Avatar
    Posts : 3,663
    Windows 10 Pro x64 v1809 Build 17763.134 (Branch: RS5 Release Preview)
       20 Oct 2017 #517

    HippsieGypsie said: View Post
    Not quite sure what you're getting at, Slice, but after some peering here it goes.

    If you mean what I consider the push-on-me/us useless game apps like Candy Crush, etc. that I keep uninstalling, then no. Neither fast ring or Skippy has reinstalled those or any other apps I've uninstalled. There were some unwanted apps that couldn't be uninstalled that I never used and never saw the light of my Start Screen that are no longer there on both branches.

    Looking at my "Download and updates" in my Store app after clicking on "Get Updates" in both branches there are some apps that have an older version in fast ring and Skippy has newer. Not sure why, for it's my same Store library.

    The Store app has a newer version and CV code (whatever that is > security code?) in Skippy than in fast ring.

    There is another difference I've noticed. I think MS has taken a different approach. Instead of pushing unwanted apps on us, They have introduced a "Suggested" category in the All Apps view wherein it gives choices as seen below. That is in Skippy and none in fast ring.

    Not saying it's not the same build, but after looking the branches seem to have different packages.


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    Exactly! I was a bit uncertain about the forced reinstall of inbox apps, but yes Skippy should have newer apps just as MS announced at some point.
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  9. Posts : 7,567
    Dual boot Windows 10 FCU Pro x 64 & current Insider 10 Pro
       20 Oct 2017 #518

    slicendice said: View Post
    Exactly! I was a bit uncertain about the forced reinstall of inbox apps, but yes Skippy should have newer apps just as MS announced at some point.
    I see what you're getting at now.

    One other strange thing I noticed is that the Store app shows up in my Skippy's "Download and updates" in my Store app itself, but not in fast ring. However, the Store app does not show up in either Library. I only noticed that because I noticed 1 pending download in Skippy, which was the Store app itself. Just plain weird.

    Still pondering what that CV code is. Not much on the net about it. Closest I can tell is that it's a security code? Might be tied to devices in one's MS account?

    One frustrating change I've noticed for awhile. What happened to the alphabetical or date listing orders in the Library section of the Store? Nothing in Store settings either. MS? Dona? Anyone?
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  10. slicendice's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 v1809 Build 17763.134 (Branch: RS5 Release Preview)
       20 Oct 2017 #519

    HippsieGypsie said: View Post
    Still pondering what that CV code is. Not much on the net about it. Closest I can tell is that it's a security code? Might be tied to devices in one's MS account?
    I think CV is for Code Verification, which help identify the exact version and authenticity of a Store App by verifying the validity of the signed data or just a shorter version of the App Signature for faster identification and app integrity validation (the full signature is rather long)...I could be totally out surfing here, but that is what I think it is.
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