Cumulative Update KB4043961 Build 16299.19 for PC Insider

bobsagetfullhou · 14 Oct 2017

My windows search service refuses to start now.

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lopedoggie · 14 Oct 2017

slicendice said:

I don't know what my system is doing every now and then on 16299.xxx. But it does not work that reliably sometimes.
Ever since 16299.0 and after a clean reboot, very often, everything regarding Store Apps, action center and Start Menu, does not respond at all. All win32 apps run smoothly, I can right click the desktop, taskbar, tray and Start...and I get working context menus. I can even use the WIN+R shortcut to show and run commands from there.
Something is still way off in version 1709 and I am not surprised so many get GSOD even after/during a clean install. This version works really well when it works, but very often it hangs right after login. I had same issues with the 2 latest Cumulative updates for 1703 too on both my laptops.

There must be some bad code recently introduced somewhere that breaks everything.

UPDATE: After multiple reboots, now my systems on both laptops seems to run smoothly again right from login. No issues. Weird...!?!

I have very similar issues, start fail, cortana fails. I reregistered those and several dlls. fingers crossed. lol there is definitely some bugs in here. i have been able to kill them but, getting to be a pain in the a..I am thinking a lot of this is vendors not prepared for this fall update thing. IMO.

LEOPEVA64 · 15 Oct 2017

This release of FCU seems to be different from CU, I remember that a few days before the release of CU, the MCT was already available (I mean, without having to do any "trick" to make it work) just like the Update Assistant, I also remember that some people reported that Creators Update files were being downloaded to their PCs in the background a few days before the release, this time I can not find those reports anywhere.

Cliff S · 15 Oct 2017

@f14tomcat do you remember the errors I was getting when running winsat formal, in my "After Version Upgrades .bat file?
The ones saying I didn't have such & such during the graphics portion?

Well it seems after upgrading my machine to 16299.15 and .19 has fixed it, after alllllll these months

Code:

Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.16299.19]
(c) 2017 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\WINDOWS\system32>winsat formal
Windows System Assessment Tool
> Running the Formal Assessment
Machine already has a WinEI rating.  Rerunning all assessments ...
> Running: Feature Enumeration ''
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-aname DWM -time 10 -fbc 10 -disp off -normalw 1 -alphaw 2 -width 1280 -height 1024 -winwidth C(1144) -winheight C(915) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -nolock'
> Assessing Desktop Graphics Performance
> Run Time 00:00:10.58
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-aname Batch -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 300 -batchcnt C(10) -objs C(26) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1)'
> Assessing DirectX Batch Performance
> Run Time 00:00:00.08
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-aname Alpha -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 300 -batchcnt C(75) -objs C(26) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1)'
> Assessing DirectX Alpha blend Performance
> Run Time 00:00:00.08
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-aname Tex -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 500 -batchcnt C(125) -objs C(20) -noalpha -texshader -totaltex 10 -texpobj C(4) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3'
> Assessing DirectX Texture load Performance
> Run Time 00:00:00.08
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-aname ALU -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 500 -batchcnt C(125) -objs C(20) -noalpha -alushader -totaltex 10 -texpobj C(1) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3'
> Assessing DirectX ALU Performance
> Run Time 00:00:00.08
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname Batch -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 300 -batchcnt C(10) -objs C(26) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1)'
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname Alpha -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 300 -batchcnt C(75) -objs C(26) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1)'
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname Tex -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 500 -batchcnt C(125) -objs C(20) -noalpha -texshader -totaltex 10 -texpobj C(4) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3'
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname ALU -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 500 -batchcnt C(125) -objs C(20) -noalpha -alushader -totaltex 10 -texpobj C(1) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3'
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname GeomF4 -time 7 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 150;200;241 -batchcnt C(50);C(200);C(300) -objs C(12);C(26);C(45) -noalpha -geomf4shader -texpobj C(0) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -tierframes 60 -tiertime 1'
> Run Time 00:00:00.01
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname GeomV8 -time 7 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 75;100;120 -batchcnt C(25);C(100);C(150) -objs C(8);C(17);C(29) -noalpha -geomv8shader -texpobj C(0) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -tierframes 60 -tiertime 1'
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname CBuffer -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 75 -batchcnt C(25) -objs C(8) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1) -cbuffershader -cbufa 2 -cbuff 5 -cbufp 6'
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> MOOBE Run Time 00:00:11.91
> Running: CPU Assessment '-encryption -up'
> Run Time 00:00:03.14
> Running: CPU Assessment '-compression -up'
> Run Time 00:00:10.08
> Running: CPU Assessment '-encryption2 -up'
> Run Time 00:00:03.06
> Running: CPU Assessment '-compression2 -up'
> Run Time 00:00:10.05
> Running: CPU Assessment '-encryption'
> Run Time 00:00:10.17
> Running: CPU Assessment '-compression'
> Run Time 00:00:10.16
> Running: CPU Assessment '-encryption2'
> Run Time 00:00:10.25
> Running: CPU Assessment '-compression2'
> Run Time 00:00:10.17
> Running: System memory performance assessment ''
> Run Time 00:00:05.20
> Running: Storage Assessment '-seq -read -n 0'
> Run Time 00:00:01.48
> Running: Storage Assessment '-ran -read -n 0'
> Run Time 00:00:00.11
> Running: Storage Assessment '-ran -read -n 1'
> Run Time 00:00:00.13
> Running: Storage Assessment '-ran -read -n 2'
> Run Time 00:00:11.63
> Running: Storage Assessment '-ran -read -n 3'
> Run Time 00:00:00.14
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> CPU LZW Compression                          1055.26 MB/s
> CPU AES256 Encryption                        6810.77 MB/s
> CPU Vista Compression                        2528.79 MB/s
> CPU SHA1 Hash                                2855.73 MB/s
> Uniproc CPU LZW Compression                  199.38 MB/s
> Uniproc CPU AES256 Encryption                922.61 MB/s
> Uniproc CPU Vista Compression                504.64 MB/s
> Uniproc CPU SHA1 Hash                        687.26 MB/s
> Memory Performance                           38481.09 MB/s
> Direct3D Batch Performance                   42.00 F/s
> Direct3D Alpha Blend Performance             42.00 F/s
> Direct3D ALU Performance                     42.00 F/s
> Direct3D Texture Load Performance            42.00 F/s
> Direct3D Batch Performance                   42.00 F/s
> Direct3D Alpha Blend Performance             42.00 F/s
> Direct3D ALU Performance                     42.00 F/s
> Direct3D Texture Load Performance            42.00 F/s
> Direct3D Geometry Performance                42.00 F/s
> Direct3D Geometry Performance                42.00 F/s
> Direct3D Constant Buffer Performance         42.00 F/s
> Video Memory Throughput                      155326.00 MB/s
> Dshow Video Encode Time                      0.00000 s
> Dshow Video Decode Time                      0.00000 s
> Media Foundation Decode Time                 0.00000 s
> Disk  Sequential 64.0 Read                   2022.57 MB/s          9.0
> Disk  Random 16.0 Read                       1291.96 MB/s          9.0
> Total Run Time 00:01:37.83
C:\WINDOWS\system32>

Rocky · 15 Oct 2017

LEOPEVA64 said:

This release of FCU seems to be different from CU, I remember that a few days before the release of CU, the MCT was already available (I mean, without having to do any "trick" to make it work) just like the Update Assistant, I also remember that some people reported that Creators Update files were being downloaded to their PCs in the background a few days before the release, this time I can not find those reports anywhere.

You're definitely right about that. This is a much different roll-out.

cereberus · 15 Oct 2017

Well, this is odd. I have been having issues with Sleep not working. I clean install 16299.15 and it temporarily worked, then crapped out again. Now I have upgraded to 16299.19 it is working again now - no consistency at all!

Bree · 15 Oct 2017

Rocky said:

You're definitely right about that. This is a much different roll-out.

No, it's a normal roll-out - it was the Creator Update that was 'much different' from all the others.

f14tomcat · 15 Oct 2017

Cliff S said:

@f14tomcat do you remember the errors I was getting when running winsat formal, in my "After Version Upgrades .bat file?
The ones saying I didn't have such & such during the graphics portion?

Well it seems after upgrading my machine to 16299.15 and .19 has fixed it, after alllllll these months

Code:

Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.16299.19]
(c) 2017 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\WINDOWS\system32>winsat formal
Windows System Assessment Tool
> Running the Formal Assessment
Machine already has a WinEI rating.  Rerunning all assessments ...
> Running: Feature Enumeration ''
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-aname DWM -time 10 -fbc 10 -disp off -normalw 1 -alphaw 2 -width 1280 -height 1024 -winwidth C(1144) -winheight C(915) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -nolock'
> Assessing Desktop Graphics Performance
> Run Time 00:00:10.58
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-aname Batch -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 300 -batchcnt C(10) -objs C(26) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1)'
> Assessing DirectX Batch Performance
> Run Time 00:00:00.08
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-aname Alpha -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 300 -batchcnt C(75) -objs C(26) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1)'
> Assessing DirectX Alpha blend Performance
> Run Time 00:00:00.08
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-aname Tex -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 500 -batchcnt C(125) -objs C(20) -noalpha -texshader -totaltex 10 -texpobj C(4) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3'
> Assessing DirectX Texture load Performance
> Run Time 00:00:00.08
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-aname ALU -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 500 -batchcnt C(125) -objs C(20) -noalpha -alushader -totaltex 10 -texpobj C(1) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3'
> Assessing DirectX ALU Performance
> Run Time 00:00:00.08
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname Batch -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 300 -batchcnt C(10) -objs C(26) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1)'
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname Alpha -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 300 -batchcnt C(75) -objs C(26) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1)'
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname Tex -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 500 -batchcnt C(125) -objs C(20) -noalpha -texshader -totaltex 10 -texpobj C(4) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3'
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname ALU -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 500 -batchcnt C(125) -objs C(20) -noalpha -alushader -totaltex 10 -texpobj C(1) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3'
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname GeomF4 -time 7 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 150;200;241 -batchcnt C(50);C(200);C(300) -objs C(12);C(26);C(45) -noalpha -geomf4shader -texpobj C(0) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -tierframes 60 -tiertime 1'
> Run Time 00:00:00.01
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname GeomV8 -time 7 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 75;100;120 -batchcnt C(25);C(100);C(150) -objs C(8);C(17);C(29) -noalpha -geomv8shader -texpobj C(0) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -tierframes 60 -tiertime 1'
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname CBuffer -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 75 -batchcnt C(25) -objs C(8) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1) -cbuffershader -cbufa 2 -cbuff 5 -cbufp 6'
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> MOOBE Run Time 00:00:11.91
> Running: CPU Assessment '-encryption -up'
> Run Time 00:00:03.14
> Running: CPU Assessment '-compression -up'
> Run Time 00:00:10.08
> Running: CPU Assessment '-encryption2 -up'
> Run Time 00:00:03.06
> Running: CPU Assessment '-compression2 -up'
> Run Time 00:00:10.05
> Running: CPU Assessment '-encryption'
> Run Time 00:00:10.17
> Running: CPU Assessment '-compression'
> Run Time 00:00:10.16
> Running: CPU Assessment '-encryption2'
> Run Time 00:00:10.25
> Running: CPU Assessment '-compression2'
> Run Time 00:00:10.17
> Running: System memory performance assessment ''
> Run Time 00:00:05.20
> Running: Storage Assessment '-seq -read -n 0'
> Run Time 00:00:01.48
> Running: Storage Assessment '-ran -read -n 0'
> Run Time 00:00:00.11
> Running: Storage Assessment '-ran -read -n 1'
> Run Time 00:00:00.13
> Running: Storage Assessment '-ran -read -n 2'
> Run Time 00:00:11.63
> Running: Storage Assessment '-ran -read -n 3'
> Run Time 00:00:00.14
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> CPU LZW Compression                          1055.26 MB/s
> CPU AES256 Encryption                        6810.77 MB/s
> CPU Vista Compression                        2528.79 MB/s
> CPU SHA1 Hash                                2855.73 MB/s
> Uniproc CPU LZW Compression                  199.38 MB/s
> Uniproc CPU AES256 Encryption                922.61 MB/s
> Uniproc CPU Vista Compression                504.64 MB/s
> Uniproc CPU SHA1 Hash                        687.26 MB/s
> Memory Performance                           38481.09 MB/s
> Direct3D Batch Performance                   42.00 F/s
> Direct3D Alpha Blend Performance             42.00 F/s
> Direct3D ALU Performance                     42.00 F/s
> Direct3D Texture Load Performance            42.00 F/s
> Direct3D Batch Performance                   42.00 F/s
> Direct3D Alpha Blend Performance             42.00 F/s
> Direct3D ALU Performance                     42.00 F/s
> Direct3D Texture Load Performance            42.00 F/s
> Direct3D Geometry Performance                42.00 F/s
> Direct3D Geometry Performance                42.00 F/s
> Direct3D Constant Buffer Performance         42.00 F/s
> Video Memory Throughput                      155326.00 MB/s
> Dshow Video Encode Time                      0.00000 s
> Dshow Video Decode Time                      0.00000 s
> Media Foundation Decode Time                 0.00000 s
> Disk  Sequential 64.0 Read                   2022.57 MB/s          9.0
> Disk  Random 16.0 Read                       1291.96 MB/s          9.0
> Total Run Time 00:01:37.83
C:\WINDOWS\system32>

@Cliff S
Oh, I do remember! Screen after screen of "No adapter found".....over and over and over...

Bi PolarBear · 15 Oct 2017

cereberus said:

Well, this is odd. I have been having issues with Sleep not working. I clean install 16299.15 and it temporarily worked, then crapped out again. Now I have upgraded to 16299.19 it is working again now - no consistency at all!

HHGTTG 42 is the answer to everything. Sorry couldn’t resist say that

AthanasianCreed · 15 Oct 2017

LEOPEVA64 said:

...I also remember that some people reported that Creators Update files were being downloaded to their PCs in the background a few days before the release, this time I can not find those reports anywhere.

I had several GB of downloads in my Software Distribution/Downloads that showed up yesterday when i tried to install the Fall update - tried twice with no luck - got BSOD both times with the same error 'Reference By Pointer'