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OilerNut said:

Yes they are, it's a huge massive expense.

It is a cost of doing business and as such it is an expense which is Tax Deductible. If they continue with this 2 to 6 hour install method, they won't have many users. Someone in The Insider Program may wait that long but ordinary Joe will not.

OilerNut said:

I don't think it's a majority of users though, just very few having issues for whatever reason.

ah no. read through the Hub and twitter and this forum. It used to take 20 minutes. If MS wants to succeed they need to speed up this process. When I tested Vista, they mailed DVD's to us. Now they will not even provide a download of an ISO till weeks after the build is out. Doing that would speed it up. Mount and run and you are done./

For those with bandwidth issues or installation time issues, maybe embedded Linux would be an option. Can be 8MB in size and with some assembly hacking you even get a working GUI that is really responsive. There even exist a full blown 64-bit multitasking OS with a GUI that fits on a Floppy. That one is also quite nice, and extremely fast even on my ancient hardware.

For those less wealthy countries, Windows is not the only OS in this world. For education, any OS will be more than good enough.

I see most here see UUP issues from an insider with multiple computers perspective where we upgrade several computers every week. So what if the upgrade takes a bit longer. It save internet bandwidth and that is what matters to everybody, including those who don't even use Windows at all.

slicendice said:

For those with bandwidth issues or installation time issues, maybe embedded Linux would be an option. Can be 8MB in size and with some assembly hacking you even get a working GUI that is really responsive. There even exist a full blown 64-bit multitasking OS with a GUI that fits on a Floppy. That one is also quite nice, and extremely fast even on my ancient hardware.

For those less wealthy countries, Windows is not the only OS in this world. For education, any OS will be more than good enough.

I see most here see UUP issues from an insider with multiple computers perspective where we upgrade several computers every week. So what if the upgrade takes a bit longer. It save internet bandwidth and that is what matters to everybody, including those who don't even use Windows at all.

Well few in UK would agree about bandwidth as virtually all broadband deals are unlimited.

cereberus said:

Well few in UK would agree about bandwidth as virtually all broadband deals are unlimited.

Internet bandwidth is NOT unlimited, no matter what your ISP says.

slicendice said:

Internet bandwidth is NOT unlimited, no matter what your ISP says.

Microsoft has server farms all over the world and you are trying to tell me that Bandwidth will hurt them? The average person will not wait 2 to 6 hours for an upgrade with a DVD would take 20 minutes. But you can believe as you wish. The download the old way was faster as was the installation. My God someone on a dial up would be doing it for a week.

Josey Wales said:

Microsoft has server farms all over the world and you are trying to tell me that Bandwidth will hurt them? The average person will not wait 2 to 6 hours for an upgrade with a DVD would take 20 minutes. But you can believe as you wish. The download the old way was faster as was the installation. My God someone on a dial up would be doing it for a week.

NO! I am talking about Internet Bandwidth Cap in general. All those millions of devices being upgraded at the same time participates in slowing down the whole internet. As all those sites with Flash filled content and where developer has never even heard of AJAX.