Cumulative Update KB4043961 Build 16299.19 for PC Insider

Kari said:

Before downloading the 17004 upgrade, I had never had a build upgrade done under 4 and a half hours since introduction of UUP in December 2016. At least three three hours to "Restart now", then at least 90 minutes to restart to desktop.

When 17004 was announced, I turned firewall off and completely disabled Windows Defender, my chosen AV protection. I got to "Restart now" in under 90 minutes, over half from previous record, and restart to desktop was done in just under an hour. Still not as fast as with ESD upgrades, but at least I could cut the time required to half.

Kari

Thank's! I'll give that a try next time. I did turn off Windows Defender and turn off my WiFi when I made the ISO.

For me it has been a constant ~40 minutes from finding a new upgrade to returning to upgraded desktop, except for a few exceptions where it took closer to 3 hours.

I always disable Defender before I check WU and re-enable it once upgrade is done.

Kari said:

Before downloading the 17004 upgrade, I had never had a build upgrade done under 4 and a half hours since introduction of UUP in December 2016. At least three three hours to "Restart now", then at least 90 minutes to restart to desktop.

When 17004 was announced, I turned firewall off and completely disabled Windows Defender, my chosen AV protection. I got to "Restart now" in under 90 minutes, over half from previous record, and restart to desktop was done in just under an hour. Still not as fast as with ESD upgrades, but at least I could cut the time required to half.

Kari

Doesn't this just sum up the whole problem with UUP - the original intent was to only download what was changed to speed things up. Instead times have doubled or even trebled. This is totally unacceptable.

OK, it slightly reduces download time and actual download volume, but is far more offset by a truly inefficient and somewhat unreliable upgrade procedure. Hell, UUP falls over for me more that 20% of the time, and it is obvious many others get similar issues.

I have said it before, and I repeat it - I believe MS are potentially making the biggest mistake of their life running with UUP into general production. Commercially, there is no positive benefit in going for UUP, but the potential dis-benefit potential is enormous.

Does MS not understand the potential magnitude of fall out, if things go pearshaped - their share price could plummet making them vulnerable to divisional fragmentation or even a takeover.

I bet the CEO has no idea of the risk that MS is potentially under as his underlings have probably dressed it up as sexy and cool, and this is well demonstrated by the totally immature ninja cat, tacos. hustle-as-a-service bullshit.

HippsieGypsie said:

Thanks for that little gem, Kari. I'll be sure to check this out next upgrade, especially on the old Acer. That took quite awhile.

I decided to test that when noticing that WU quite often failed to download build upgrade at first try if there were a Defender definition upgrade to download, too.

With 17004 I then used Defender UI to download the definitions update first, then disabled it completely, thought that I might also disable firewall and give it a go.

Was surprised to see time cut to half.

Kari

Concerning Updating.....most of these posts are talking Insider to Insider....mine averaged 40 minutes on a desktop.

My previous post was Updating an OEM to an Insider.....mine took two and a quarter hours.
The billions in the outside world wishing to Update to RS3 will not be happy with that.