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  1.    14 Oct 2017 #911
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    Win 10 Pro x64

    My windows search service refuses to start now.

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  2.    14 Oct 2017 #912
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    Posts : 419
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit v1709 build 16299.15

    Quote Originally Posted by slicendice View Post
    I don't know what my system is doing every now and then on 16299.xxx. But it does not work that reliably sometimes.
    Ever since 16299.0 and after a clean reboot, very often, everything regarding Store Apps, action center and Start Menu, does not respond at all. All win32 apps run smoothly, I can right click the desktop, taskbar, tray and Start...and I get working context menus. I can even use the WIN+R shortcut to show and run commands from there.
    Something is still way off in version 1709 and I am not surprised so many get GSOD even after/during a clean install. This version works really well when it works, but very often it hangs right after login. I had same issues with the 2 latest Cumulative updates for 1703 too on both my laptops.


    There must be some bad code recently introduced somewhere that breaks everything.

    UPDATE: After multiple reboots, now my systems on both laptops seems to run smoothly again right from login. No issues. Weird...!?!
    I have very similar issues, start fail, cortana fails. I reregistered those and several dlls. fingers crossed. lol there is definitely some bugs in here. i have been able to kill them but, getting to be a pain in the a..I am thinking a lot of this is vendors not prepared for this fall update thing. IMO.
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  3.    15 Oct 2017 #913
    Join Date : Nov 2015
    Posts : 385
    WINDOWS 10 Pro x64 builds 17040.1000, 16299.64

    This release of FCU seems to be different from CU, I remember that a few days before the release of CU, the MCT was already available (I mean, without having to do any "trick" to make it work) just like the Update Assistant, I also remember that some people reported that Creators Update files were being downloaded to their PCs in the background a few days before the release, this time I can not find those reports anywhere.
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  4.    15 Oct 2017 #914
    Join Date : Feb 2015
    Bamberg Germany
    Posts : 17,573
    Win10 Pro, Win10 Pro N, Win10 Home, Win10 Pro Insider Fast Ring, Windows 8.1 Pro, Ubuntu

    @f14tomcat do you remember the errors I was getting when running winsat formal, in my "After Version Upgrades .bat file?
    The ones saying I didn't have such & such during the graphics portion?

    Well it seems after upgrading my machine to 16299.15 and .19 has fixed it, after alllllll these months

    Code:
    Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.16299.19]
    (c) 2017 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
    C:\WINDOWS\system32>winsat formal
    Windows System Assessment Tool
    > Running the Formal Assessment
    Machine already has a WinEI rating.  Rerunning all assessments ...
    > Running: Feature Enumeration ''
    > Run Time 00:00:00.00
    > Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-aname DWM -time 10 -fbc 10 -disp off -normalw 1 -alphaw 2 -width 1280 -height 1024 -winwidth C(1144) -winheight C(915) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -nolock'
    > Assessing Desktop Graphics Performance
    > Run Time 00:00:10.58
    > Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-aname Batch -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 300 -batchcnt C(10) -objs C(26) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1)'
    > Assessing DirectX Batch Performance
    > Run Time 00:00:00.08
    > Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-aname Alpha -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 300 -batchcnt C(75) -objs C(26) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1)'
    > Assessing DirectX Alpha blend Performance
    > Run Time 00:00:00.08
    > Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-aname Tex -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 500 -batchcnt C(125) -objs C(20) -noalpha -texshader -totaltex 10 -texpobj C(4) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3'
    > Assessing DirectX Texture load Performance
    > Run Time 00:00:00.08
    > Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-aname ALU -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 500 -batchcnt C(125) -objs C(20) -noalpha -alushader -totaltex 10 -texpobj C(1) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3'
    > Assessing DirectX ALU Performance
    > Run Time 00:00:00.08
    > Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname Batch -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 300 -batchcnt C(10) -objs C(26) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1)'
    > Run Time 00:00:00.00
    > Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname Alpha -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 300 -batchcnt C(75) -objs C(26) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1)'
    > Run Time 00:00:00.00
    > Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname Tex -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 500 -batchcnt C(125) -objs C(20) -noalpha -texshader -totaltex 10 -texpobj C(4) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3'
    > Run Time 00:00:00.00
    > Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname ALU -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 500 -batchcnt C(125) -objs C(20) -noalpha -alushader -totaltex 10 -texpobj C(1) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3'
    > Run Time 00:00:00.00
    > Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname GeomF4 -time 7 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 150;200;241 -batchcnt C(50);C(200);C(300) -objs C(12);C(26);C(45) -noalpha -geomf4shader -texpobj C(0) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -tierframes 60 -tiertime 1'
    > Run Time 00:00:00.01
    > Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname GeomV8 -time 7 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 75;100;120 -batchcnt C(25);C(100);C(150) -objs C(8);C(17);C(29) -noalpha -geomv8shader -texpobj C(0) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -tierframes 60 -tiertime 1'
    > Run Time 00:00:00.00
    > Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname CBuffer -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 75 -batchcnt C(25) -objs C(8) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1) -cbuffershader -cbufa 2 -cbuff 5 -cbufp 6'
    > Run Time 00:00:00.00
    > MOOBE Run Time 00:00:11.91
    > Running: CPU Assessment '-encryption -up'
    > Run Time 00:00:03.14
    > Running: CPU Assessment '-compression -up'
    > Run Time 00:00:10.08
    > Running: CPU Assessment '-encryption2 -up'
    > Run Time 00:00:03.06
    > Running: CPU Assessment '-compression2 -up'
    > Run Time 00:00:10.05
    > Running: CPU Assessment '-encryption'
    > Run Time 00:00:10.17
    > Running: CPU Assessment '-compression'
    > Run Time 00:00:10.16
    > Running: CPU Assessment '-encryption2'
    > Run Time 00:00:10.25
    > Running: CPU Assessment '-compression2'
    > Run Time 00:00:10.17
    > Running: System memory performance assessment ''
    > Run Time 00:00:05.20
    > Running: Storage Assessment '-seq -read -n 0'
    > Run Time 00:00:01.48
    > Running: Storage Assessment '-ran -read -n 0'
    > Run Time 00:00:00.11
    > Running: Storage Assessment '-ran -read -n 1'
    > Run Time 00:00:00.13
    > Running: Storage Assessment '-ran -read -n 2'
    > Run Time 00:00:11.63
    > Running: Storage Assessment '-ran -read -n 3'
    > Run Time 00:00:00.14
    > Run Time 00:00:00.00
    > CPU LZW Compression                          1055.26 MB/s
    > CPU AES256 Encryption                        6810.77 MB/s
    > CPU Vista Compression                        2528.79 MB/s
    > CPU SHA1 Hash                                2855.73 MB/s
    > Uniproc CPU LZW Compression                  199.38 MB/s
    > Uniproc CPU AES256 Encryption                922.61 MB/s
    > Uniproc CPU Vista Compression                504.64 MB/s
    > Uniproc CPU SHA1 Hash                        687.26 MB/s
    > Memory Performance                           38481.09 MB/s
    > Direct3D Batch Performance                   42.00 F/s
    > Direct3D Alpha Blend Performance             42.00 F/s
    > Direct3D ALU Performance                     42.00 F/s
    > Direct3D Texture Load Performance            42.00 F/s
    > Direct3D Batch Performance                   42.00 F/s
    > Direct3D Alpha Blend Performance             42.00 F/s
    > Direct3D ALU Performance                     42.00 F/s
    > Direct3D Texture Load Performance            42.00 F/s
    > Direct3D Geometry Performance                42.00 F/s
    > Direct3D Geometry Performance                42.00 F/s
    > Direct3D Constant Buffer Performance         42.00 F/s
    > Video Memory Throughput                      155326.00 MB/s
    > Dshow Video Encode Time                      0.00000 s
    > Dshow Video Decode Time                      0.00000 s
    > Media Foundation Decode Time                 0.00000 s
    > Disk  Sequential 64.0 Read                   2022.57 MB/s          9.0
    > Disk  Random 16.0 Read                       1291.96 MB/s          9.0
    > Total Run Time 00:01:37.83
    C:\WINDOWS\system32>
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  5.    15 Oct 2017 #915
    Join Date : Mar 2015
    New Mexico
    Posts : 1,327
    Windows 10 Pro,

    Quote Originally Posted by LEOPEVA64 View Post
    This release of FCU seems to be different from CU, I remember that a few days before the release of CU, the MCT was already available (I mean, without having to do any "trick" to make it work) just like the Update Assistant, I also remember that some people reported that Creators Update files were being downloaded to their PCs in the background a few days before the release, this time I can not find those reports anywhere.
    You're definitely right about that. This is a much different roll-out.
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  6.    15 Oct 2017 #916
    Join Date : Dec 2015
    Posts : 5,900
    Windows10

    Well, this is odd. I have been having issues with Sleep not working. I clean install 16299.15 and it temporarily worked, then crapped out again. Now I have upgraded to 16299.19 it is working again now - no consistency at all!
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  7.    15 Oct 2017 #917
    Join Date : Aug 2016
    S/E England
    Posts : 4,490
    10 Home x64 (1709) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    You're definitely right about that. This is a much different roll-out.
    No, it's a normal roll-out - it was the Creator Update that was 'much different' from all the others.
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  8.    15 Oct 2017 #918
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Arnold, MD
    Posts : 28,966
    Triple boot - Win 10 Pro, Win 10 Pro Insider (2) - (and a sprinkling of VMs)

    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff S View Post
    @f14tomcat do you remember the errors I was getting when running winsat formal, in my "After Version Upgrades .bat file?
    The ones saying I didn't have such & such during the graphics portion?

    Well it seems after upgrading my machine to 16299.15 and .19 has fixed it, after alllllll these months

    Code:
    Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.16299.19]
    (c) 2017 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
    C:\WINDOWS\system32>winsat formal
    Windows System Assessment Tool
    > Running the Formal Assessment
    Machine already has a WinEI rating.  Rerunning all assessments ...
    > Running: Feature Enumeration ''
    > Run Time 00:00:00.00
    > Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-aname DWM -time 10 -fbc 10 -disp off -normalw 1 -alphaw 2 -width 1280 -height 1024 -winwidth C(1144) -winheight C(915) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -nolock'
    > Assessing Desktop Graphics Performance
    > Run Time 00:00:10.58
    > Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-aname Batch -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 300 -batchcnt C(10) -objs C(26) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1)'
    > Assessing DirectX Batch Performance
    > Run Time 00:00:00.08
    > Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-aname Alpha -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 300 -batchcnt C(75) -objs C(26) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1)'
    > Assessing DirectX Alpha blend Performance
    > Run Time 00:00:00.08
    > Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-aname Tex -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 500 -batchcnt C(125) -objs C(20) -noalpha -texshader -totaltex 10 -texpobj C(4) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3'
    > Assessing DirectX Texture load Performance
    > Run Time 00:00:00.08
    > Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-aname ALU -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 500 -batchcnt C(125) -objs C(20) -noalpha -alushader -totaltex 10 -texpobj C(1) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3'
    > Assessing DirectX ALU Performance
    > Run Time 00:00:00.08
    > Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname Batch -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 300 -batchcnt C(10) -objs C(26) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1)'
    > Run Time 00:00:00.00
    > Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname Alpha -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 300 -batchcnt C(75) -objs C(26) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1)'
    > Run Time 00:00:00.00
    > Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname Tex -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 500 -batchcnt C(125) -objs C(20) -noalpha -texshader -totaltex 10 -texpobj C(4) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3'
    > Run Time 00:00:00.00
    > Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname ALU -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 500 -batchcnt C(125) -objs C(20) -noalpha -alushader -totaltex 10 -texpobj C(1) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3'
    > Run Time 00:00:00.00
    > Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname GeomF4 -time 7 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 150;200;241 -batchcnt C(50);C(200);C(300) -objs C(12);C(26);C(45) -noalpha -geomf4shader -texpobj C(0) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -tierframes 60 -tiertime 1'
    > Run Time 00:00:00.01
    > Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname GeomV8 -time 7 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 75;100;120 -batchcnt C(25);C(100);C(150) -objs C(8);C(17);C(29) -noalpha -geomv8shader -texpobj C(0) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -tierframes 60 -tiertime 1'
    > Run Time 00:00:00.00
    > Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname CBuffer -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 75 -batchcnt C(25) -objs C(8) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1) -cbuffershader -cbufa 2 -cbuff 5 -cbufp 6'
    > Run Time 00:00:00.00
    > MOOBE Run Time 00:00:11.91
    > Running: CPU Assessment '-encryption -up'
    > Run Time 00:00:03.14
    > Running: CPU Assessment '-compression -up'
    > Run Time 00:00:10.08
    > Running: CPU Assessment '-encryption2 -up'
    > Run Time 00:00:03.06
    > Running: CPU Assessment '-compression2 -up'
    > Run Time 00:00:10.05
    > Running: CPU Assessment '-encryption'
    > Run Time 00:00:10.17
    > Running: CPU Assessment '-compression'
    > Run Time 00:00:10.16
    > Running: CPU Assessment '-encryption2'
    > Run Time 00:00:10.25
    > Running: CPU Assessment '-compression2'
    > Run Time 00:00:10.17
    > Running: System memory performance assessment ''
    > Run Time 00:00:05.20
    > Running: Storage Assessment '-seq -read -n 0'
    > Run Time 00:00:01.48
    > Running: Storage Assessment '-ran -read -n 0'
    > Run Time 00:00:00.11
    > Running: Storage Assessment '-ran -read -n 1'
    > Run Time 00:00:00.13
    > Running: Storage Assessment '-ran -read -n 2'
    > Run Time 00:00:11.63
    > Running: Storage Assessment '-ran -read -n 3'
    > Run Time 00:00:00.14
    > Run Time 00:00:00.00
    > CPU LZW Compression                          1055.26 MB/s
    > CPU AES256 Encryption                        6810.77 MB/s
    > CPU Vista Compression                        2528.79 MB/s
    > CPU SHA1 Hash                                2855.73 MB/s
    > Uniproc CPU LZW Compression                  199.38 MB/s
    > Uniproc CPU AES256 Encryption                922.61 MB/s
    > Uniproc CPU Vista Compression                504.64 MB/s
    > Uniproc CPU SHA1 Hash                        687.26 MB/s
    > Memory Performance                           38481.09 MB/s
    > Direct3D Batch Performance                   42.00 F/s
    > Direct3D Alpha Blend Performance             42.00 F/s
    > Direct3D ALU Performance                     42.00 F/s
    > Direct3D Texture Load Performance            42.00 F/s
    > Direct3D Batch Performance                   42.00 F/s
    > Direct3D Alpha Blend Performance             42.00 F/s
    > Direct3D ALU Performance                     42.00 F/s
    > Direct3D Texture Load Performance            42.00 F/s
    > Direct3D Geometry Performance                42.00 F/s
    > Direct3D Geometry Performance                42.00 F/s
    > Direct3D Constant Buffer Performance         42.00 F/s
    > Video Memory Throughput                      155326.00 MB/s
    > Dshow Video Encode Time                      0.00000 s
    > Dshow Video Decode Time                      0.00000 s
    > Media Foundation Decode Time                 0.00000 s
    > Disk  Sequential 64.0 Read                   2022.57 MB/s          9.0
    > Disk  Random 16.0 Read                       1291.96 MB/s          9.0
    > Total Run Time 00:01:37.83
    C:\WINDOWS\system32>
    @Cliff S
    Oh, I do remember! Screen after screen of "No adapter found".....over and over and over...

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  9.    15 Oct 2017 #919
    Join Date : Oct 2017
    Posts : 9
    Windows 10

    Quote Originally Posted by cereberus View Post
    Well, this is odd. I have been having issues with Sleep not working. I clean install 16299.15 and it temporarily worked, then crapped out again. Now I have upgraded to 16299.19 it is working again now - no consistency at all!
    HHGTTG 42 is the answer to everything. Sorry couldn’t resist say that
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  10.    15 Oct 2017 #920
    Join Date : Mar 2015
    Posts : 115
    Windows 10 Pro x64

    Quote Originally Posted by LEOPEVA64 View Post
    ...I also remember that some people reported that Creators Update files were being downloaded to their PCs in the background a few days before the release, this time I can not find those reports anywhere.
    I had several GB of downloads in my Software Distribution/Downloads that showed up yesterday when i tried to install the Fall update - tried twice with no luck - got BSOD both times with the same error 'Reference By Pointer'
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