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  1.    05 Oct 2017 #281
    Join Date : Oct 2013
    Watford
    Posts : 13,973
    Windows 10 Home 64bit

    Quote Originally Posted by Winuser View Post
    I know for me the downloading is not the problem. The problem starts once it goes to the installing part. That's the part that takes hours. On this build it took hours just to reach the part where the computer needed to be restarted. Then it took hours to finally get to the login screen. One build made my computer unusable until it got to (if I remember correctly) 72% installed. Even trying to bring up Task Manager took over 5 minutes. My HDD was pegged at 100%. I do understand what MS is trying to do. The thing is that for some of us UUP isn't working as planed and takes the joy out of the upgrading experience. I don't know what changed with UUP because earlier builds didn't give me this problem with very slow installs. I'm even experiencing slow installs on my desktop running the Skippy build and that has a SSD.
    it's very variable for me. It varies from two and a half to five hours to get to the restart 16299.0 was two and a half 16299.15 was over three. The part after the restart is 30 to 45 minutes and doesn't vary much for me. The part that takes the longest is Installing, particularly the 60 to 80% range.
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  2.    05 Oct 2017 #282
    Join Date : Oct 2017
    Posts : 1
    Windows 10 Insider Preview 16299

    I have tried to install this build numerous times and i keep getting this error - Windows 10 Insider Preview 16299.15 (rs3_release) (6) Last failed install attempt on ‎04/‎10/‎2017 - 0xc1900101a, any help would be appreciated.
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  3.    05 Oct 2017 #283
    Join Date : Feb 2016
    Maribor, Slovenia
    Posts : 8,973
    Windows 10 (Pro and Insider Pro)

    Quote Originally Posted by Bully View Post
    I have tried to install this build numerous times and i keep getting this error - Windows 10 Insider Preview 16299.15 (rs3_release) (6) Last failed install attempt on ‎04/‎10/‎2017 - 0xc1900101a, any help would be appreciated.
    Disconnect any unnecessary devices (USB etc..), run
    sfc /scannow
    (from admin prompt)
    and
    DISM.EXE /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth
    Sometimes Windows update troubleshooter helps...
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  4.    05 Oct 2017 #284
    Join Date : Jan 2017
    Turku
    Posts : 1,787
    Windows 10 Pro IP Build 16299.19 (Branch: RS3 Release)

    Quote Originally Posted by Winuser View Post
    I know for me the downloading is not the problem. The problem starts once it goes to the installing part. That's the part that takes hours. On this build it took hours just to reach the part where the computer needed to be restarted. Then it took hours to finally get to the login screen. One build made my computer unusable until it got to (if I remember correctly) 72% installed. Even trying to bring up Task Manager took over 5 minutes. My HDD was pegged at 100%. I do understand what MS is trying to do. The thing is that for some of us UUP isn't working as planed and takes the joy out of the upgrading experience. I don't know what changed with UUP because earlier builds didn't give me this problem with very slow installs. I'm even experiencing slow installs on my desktop running the Skippy build and that has a SSD.
    What changed in UUP is that because some users had requested that the computer should remain online (usable) for as long as possible during the upgrade process, MS moved most of the process to the online phase. What we have now, is a very slow upgrade process and the computer remains still unusable for many tasks that are time critical (we have now a lot of lag and stuttering in everything we do while upgrade is in progress). The previous version of UUP was much faster, because it did most it's work in offline mode.

    WU, UUP and tools like DISM still has a very long way to go. There is a lot that can still be optimized. One optimization would be to improve speed and compression levels of DISM to same level as the open source wimlib-imagex does, which has multithreading support and can run on all CPU cores/threads available.

    So if UUP was bad, now it is even worse.
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  5.    05 Oct 2017 #285
    Join Date : Jan 2014
    Posts : 1,393
    Windows 10 Pro (32-bit) 16299.15

    Quote Originally Posted by cereberus View Post
    Have been looking closer at files in onedrive section in appdata.

    The file global.ini is different if on Insider (copied as Global1) or not on Insider

    C:\>fc global.ini global1.ini /u
    Comparing files global.ini and GLOBAL1.INI
    ***** global.ini
    PlaceholdersTurnedOffByFilterError = false
    SavedPlaceholdersEnabledState = false
    IsFirstTransitionToPlaceholderEnabledState = false
    CoAuthAppProtocolVersions = {}
    ***** GLOBAL1.INI
    PlaceholdersTurnedOffByFilterError = false
    SavedPlaceholdersEnabledState = true
    IsFirstTransitionToPlaceholderEnabledState = true
    CoAuthAppProtocolVersions = {}
    *****

    I tried manually editing it, but file kept getting changed. Messed around with partitions etc, made no difference.
    Thanks for doing that - I was thinking on similar lines but you beat me to it.

    In my global.ini, I don't have IsFirstTransitionToPlaceholderEnabledState - it's not there at all (so obviously is neither True nor False)
    I do have SavedPlaceholdersEnabledState, and the pattern is the same as you've seen.
    I note that merely joining the Release Preview ring is enough to switch the Onedrive state to turn placeholders on again.
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  6.    05 Oct 2017 #286
    Join Date : Jan 2017
    Turku
    Posts : 1,787
    Windows 10 Pro IP Build 16299.19 (Branch: RS3 Release)

    HUH!?! My Windows suddenly started to behave erratically. Nothing was responding not even after a couple of reboots.

    Now it's behaving normally again.
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  7.    05 Oct 2017 #287
    Join Date : Mar 2015
    New Mexico
    Posts : 1,328
    Windows 10 Pro,

    The time that it takes for me to update my system is pretty constant. From the time that I press "check for updates" to the time that I am completely into the new build takes less than half an hour. This includes;

    1. Getting ready to update
    2. Downloading update
    3. Installing update
    4. Restart
    5. Into the new build.

    Even as an insider I would not have the patience to wait an entire hour to update my system.

    As an aside, a clean install of a new build, such as I performed with 16299.15, takes about 10 minutes. This is also pretty constant. Anything more than that and Microsoft would be alienating many a customer.
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  8.    05 Oct 2017 #288
    Join Date : Mar 2017
    Posts : 5,865
    64-bit Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by OilerNut View Post
    They are unlikely to go back to old technology that consumes a lot more bandwidth, we can only hope they improve the process.
    The process can't be fixed. They are considering going back, but since I dropped out of the program this is no real concern for me. The RS3 will not come out of sleep on my machine. Any RS3 build. that is why I dropped out.
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  9.    05 Oct 2017 #289
    Join Date : Jun 2014
    Posts : 5,530
    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Josey Wales View Post
    The process can't be fixed. They are considering going back, but since I dropped out of the program this is no real concern for me. The RS3 will not come out of sleep on my machine. Any RS3 build. that is why I dropped out.

    Every problem I've had with sleep has always been caused by the video card drivers
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  10.    05 Oct 2017 #290
    Join Date : Dec 2015
    Posts : 6,006
    Windows10

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidY View Post
    Thanks for doing that - I was thinking on similar lines but you beat me to it.

    In my global.ini, I don't have IsFirstTransitionToPlaceholderEnabledState - it's not there at all (so obviously is neither True nor False)
    I do have SavedPlaceholdersEnabledState, and the pattern is the same as you've seen.
    I note that merely joining the Release Preview ring is enough to switch the Onedrive state to turn placeholders on again.
    Yeah - I noticed that about Preview Ring.
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