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  1.    04 Oct 2017 #261
    Join Date : Oct 2014
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    Windows 8.1, Win10Pro

    OK, so today's Update tio 16299.15 took a little over two hours -- download starting to desktop refresh -- and that is with Defender disabled and Firewall disabled. That's better than the 3 hours + it used to take, but I can't see the "general public" being happy with waiting HOURS for an Update -- and they don't know about disabling Defender and the Firewall to speed things up.
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  2.    04 Oct 2017 #262
    Join Date : Jun 2014
    Posts : 5,519
    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by cereberus View Post
    It is not the download phase that is the problem - it is the installation phase that is so much slower. My vms take five hours with uup to upgrade, and about 2 hours when I use install.esd. As I have fast internet, the download times are only 15 mins or so for me.

    Explain the 3 hour difference - turning off defender makes no significant difference in my tests.
    The installation phase is what slows my computers down. The actual download is fast. Last night even after I hit restart it still took hours. I gave up at midnight and when I checked in the morning my computer was at the login screen. I never had this problem with the ESD method.
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  3.    04 Oct 2017 #263
    Join Date : May 2016
    Posts : 257
    Windows 10

    I have various VMs and physical machines all downloading the updates and not one took over an hour. It's odd how it can take hours for some. My machines though are pretty clean and don't have a lot installed. Perhaps that is the difference?
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  4.    04 Oct 2017 #264
    Join Date : Jun 2014
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Josey Wales View Post
    Microsoft has server farms all over the world and you are trying to tell me that Bandwidth will hurt them? The average person will not wait 2 to 6 hours for an upgrade with a DVD would take 20 minutes. But you can believe as you wish. The download the old way was faster as was the installation. My God someone on a dial up would be doing it for a week.
    Back in my dial up days it would take me 3 days to download a new version of Linux Mandrake.
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  5.    04 Oct 2017 #265
    Join Date : Jun 2014
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by OilerNut View Post
    I have various VMs and physical machines all downloading the updates and not one took over an hour. It's odd how it can take hours for some. My machines though are pretty clean and don't have a lot installed. Perhaps that is the difference?
    My laptop is new and I have very little installed.
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  6.    04 Oct 2017 #266
    Join Date : Jun 2014
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    Windows 10 Pro

    This is my opinion about UUP. UUP at this time is a failure. MS needs to admit this and give the Insiders a choice of how we want to install new builds. For those who have no problems with UUP could still test the UUP upgrade process and the new builds and those of us who do have a problem with UUP could use the old reliable ESD process and continue to test new builds without taking hours and hours to install
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  7.    04 Oct 2017 #267
    Join Date : May 2016
    Posts : 257
    Windows 10

    They are unlikely to go back to old technology that consumes a lot more bandwidth, we can only hope they improve the process.
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  8.    04 Oct 2017 #268
    Join Date : Jun 2014
    Posts : 5,519
    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by OilerNut View Post
    They are unlikely to go back to old technology that consumes a lot more bandwidth, we can only hope they improve the process.
    I can see a lot of computers getting bricked when the average user gets tired of waiting hours for their computers to update and hit the power button. On second thought that might be what MS wants. It could be a win win for MS and the OEMs. Sales of new Windows 10 computer will sky rocket when the average user replaces the computer they brick by not waiting hours for the computer to finish updating. Save bandwidth and increase profits from sales of new computers.
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  9.    04 Oct 2017 #269
    Join Date : Nov 2014
    Floyd, VA
    Posts : 1,122
    Triple Boot Windows 10 IP Build 17025/Windows Server 2016/Debian Sid

    Build 16296 and other Build 16296 goodies are now up on the Windows Insider Preview Download Advanced. Just sign in with your MSA. That's but one step away from 16299.15, which, being RTM is not going up on that or probably any other Microsoft site until 10/17/ 2017. I'm going to try (but not tonight) to see if an "official" 16296 build can join Skippy via the registry hack.
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  10.    04 Oct 2017 #270
    Join Date : Nov 2015
    Posts : 385
    WINDOWS 10 Pro x64 builds 17040.1000, 16299.64

    The other thing we can do at the moment is to use the tool that downloads the UUP files directly from the Microsoft servers and create the ISO with those files, that's what I do for some builds ago.
    PS: I do not know if the link is allowed, if not I ask @Brink to please edit my comment.
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