Windows 10: Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Slow Build 16299 for PC Insider

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  1.    30 Sep 2017 #230

    @Leo - how'd you get the all app list to the left of the start menu - I click on Start I get the pinned tiles - then if I click on all aps in the upper left I get the menu all across the screen
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  2. slicendice's Avatar
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       30 Sep 2017 #231

    swarfega said: View Post
    I think the forum would be much quieter without insiders. Thanks Gabe!
    Agreed! Very quiet here when no new builds are released. Once something new pop out, this site gets really active.

    I joined this forum just because I wanted a place to share Insider experiences and learn something new that I would not have otherwise thought of.

    Thanks (W)Insider-team and thanks Ten Forums -team! :)
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  3. Cliff S's Avatar
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       30 Sep 2017 #232

    Could the perceived faster 17004 just be a subjective observation, rather than objective?
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  4.    30 Sep 2017 #233

    Cliff S said: View Post
    Could the perceived faster 17004 just be a subjective observation, rather than objective?
    (deleted post with test results)
    You could be right about the perceived speed difference.

    My hat is off to all of you here and your vast knowledge base of computers and OSs - my skill set is not even in the same country as most of you.
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       30 Sep 2017 #234

    Cliff S said: View Post
    Just run winsat formal in the command prompt, and then upload a copy of the Formal.Assessment (Recent).WinSAT.XML found here: C:\Windows\Performance\WinSAT\DataStore to oneDrive(to have a copy to compare with when on the other OS partition).
    Attachment 155788

    And then look at the scores here:
    Attachment 155789
    But you can glean even more info, by looking through the whole assessment.
    Interesting numbers.

    Here are the numbers from my ancient Asus U46SV:
    Code:
    <WinSPR>
       <SystemScore>6.9</SystemScore>
       <MemoryScore>8.6</MemoryScore>
       <CpuScore>8.6</CpuScore>
       <CPUSubAggScore>7.3</CPUSubAggScore>
       <VideoEncodeScore>9.9</VideoEncodeScore>
       <GraphicsScore>6.9</GraphicsScore>
       <Dx9SubScore>9.9</Dx9SubScore>
       <Dx10SubScore>9.9</Dx10SubScore>
       <GamingScore>9.9</GamingScore>
       <DiskScore>8.15</DiskScore>
       <LimitsApplied>
          <GamingScore>
             <LimitApplied Friendly="We no longer run the D3D test. Returned scores and metrics are hardcoded sentinel values.">NoD3DTestRun</LimitApplied>
          </GamingScore>
       </LimitsApplied>
    </WinSPR>
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  6.    30 Sep 2017 #235

    So I have a weird question - since I don't have a lot of experience running insider builds on my main system. We can all agree that 16299 is very close to RTM. I just bought new PC parts and I'd rather fresh install the newest version of Windows. Can install 16299 now, and upgrade to the RTM build when that's out and then withdraw from the insider thing on my main PC? Or would you recommend waiting outright for RTM (super difficult with new Threadripper hardware taunting me to use it)? I have to assume RTM will be around in the coming week anyway if my memory serves me right from past experience.
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       30 Sep 2017 #236

    24c said: View Post
    @Leo - how'd you get the all app list to the left of the start menu - I click on Start I get the pinned tiles - then if I click on all aps in the upper left I get the menu all across the screen
    I think that's a bug, I've tried to reproduce what you say by changing various settings from the Start menu and I could not, when I click on all apps, in the upper left, they appear only on the left side, not on the whole screen.


    Maybe you already knew this but if you want to always see that list of all apps you can go to Settings, Personalisation, Start:
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    Edit: I realize now that maybe you have the option to "Use Start full screen" enabled and in that case is not a bug, is normal.
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       30 Sep 2017 #237

    It wasn't about showing my numbers, it was just showing 24c where to look for a quick overview after testing.
    Those are not even my best scores, as they were run whíle my CPU was "only" OC'd to 4.5GHz(my daily profile) instead of my benchmarking profile of 4.9GHz, and my GTX1080 was also not OC'd for the run.
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       30 Sep 2017 #238

    @Mr. C. Simonds, Esq., you know I like you, you know you are one of the Good Geeks I follow.

    That being said, I have tried but I simply cannot understand your chosen colors! What diabolical reason can make a geek to use red on black color combination as your screenshots reveal?



    Remember that I will be there for you in case you want to discuss about reasons behind this utterly weird behaviour. Speaking from personal experience, I can tell you that regular consumption of whisky can cure the DCS (Disturbing Color Syndrome). May I suggest a shot or thirteen and restoring some not so weird color scheme?

    Your virtual friend in this adopted home country we share,

    Kari
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  10.    30 Sep 2017 #239

    LEOPEVA64 said: View Post
    I think that's a bug, I've tried to reproduce what you say by changing various settings from the Start menu and I could not, when I click on all apps, in the upper left, they appear only on the left side, not on the whole screen.
    Maybe you already knew this but if you want to always see that list of all apps you can go to Settings, Personalisation, Start:
    Thanks - I have the "Show all apps in the Start menu" checked - the neverending world of computer amazement
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