Windows 10: Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Slow Build 16299 for PC Insider

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  1.    30 Sep 2017 #220

    Cliff S said: View Post
    I joined the Insider program right away too, because I didn't like Windows 7 that was on my laptop that much, and in my town at the time, there was no store that had Windows 8, so when I found out about 10 preview, I gave it a try, and it ran better than Win7 did. So I stuck with it, and now two more PC's later, I have it on all 3 machines, with the insider build on a VM, that has never been clean installed after the initial install, only upgraded build for build, and it runs great too.
    I started right away too although I jumped from W8.1 and first clean install was with AU. By that time it was all the way from W7 than W8 etc.
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  2.    30 Sep 2017 #221

    I joined in Insider Program in Nov 1st of 2014 - been using Insider builds ever since - don't recall that last time I did a clean install - probably in Nov of '14 .


    I have my C:\ drive set into 2 partitions - 16299 on 1st - 17004 on 2nd - each OS is running on the same hardware in the same machine - BUT - 17004 seems to be quicker - the 2nd half of a M2 Samsung 960 Pro SSD must be faster than the 1st half - who'd a thunk it.
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  3.    30 Sep 2017 #222

    24c said: View Post
    I joined in Insider Program in Nov 1st of 2014 - been using Insider builds ever since - don't recall that last time I did a clean install - probably in Nov of '14 .


    I have my C:\ drive set into 2 partitions - 16299 on 1st - 17004 on 2nd - each OS is running on the same hardware in the same machine - BUT - 17004 seems to be quicker - the 2nd half of a M2 Samsung 960 Pro SSD must be faster than the 1st half - who'd a thunk it.

    This has got nothing to do with the SSD!

    It is quite possible 17004 runs faster, or its settings are better optimisedetc.
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  4.    30 Sep 2017 #223

    cereberus said: View Post
    This has got nothing to do with the SSD!
    It is quite possible 17004 runs faster, or its settings are better optimisedetc.
    I knew it had nothing to do with the SSD - I wanted to see if you knew that -

    17004 is an image of 16299 that was put on the SKIPPY ring with the reg tweak - settings are the same unless 17004 updated them. I think your statement "It is quite possible that 17004 runs faster" is the correct answer.
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  5.    30 Sep 2017 #224

    24c said: View Post
    I knew it had nothing to do with the SSD - I wanted to see if you knew that -

    17004 is an image of 16299 that was put on the SKIPPY ring with the reg tweak - settings are the same unless 17004 updated them. I think your statement "It is quite possible that 17004 runs faster" is the correct answer.
    The 16299 build may have had some issues, that upgrading sorted.

    Only way of really telling is to see if it runs faster by doing a range of benchmarks against two clean installs.
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       30 Sep 2017 #225

    24c said: View Post
    17004 is an image of 16299 that was put on the SKIPPY ring
    But with some new features, such as the "reveal" effect in the Start menu (which is causing some lag when opening the Start menu on devices with igpu and low hardware) and the color of emphasis in the texts of the Action Center and we do not know what other internal changes have been made.
    24c said: View Post
    settings are the same unless 17004 updated them.
    I do believe that they updated them, a sign that they are making changes to the Settings is the problem that there is to access the storage options in build 17004.
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  7.    30 Sep 2017 #226

    cereberus said: View Post
    Only way of really telling is to see if it runs faster by doing a range of benchmarks against two clean installs.
    I thought about this and decided it was too much effort.


    LEOPEVA64 said: View Post
    But with some new features, such as the "reveal" effect in the Start menu (which is causing some lag when opening the Start menu on devices with igpu and low hardware) and the color of emphasis in the texts of the Action Center and we do not know what other internal changes have been made.
    I do believe that they updated them, a sign that they are making changes to the Settings is the problem that there is to access the storage options in build 17004.
    I cannot access the storage setting in 17004, as you stated, and I'm still trying to figure out what the "reveal" deal is with the start menu.
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       30 Sep 2017 #227

    24c said: View Post
    I'm still trying to figure out what the "reveal" deal is with the start menu.
    In the thread about build 17004 I put a gif, but it was not mine, these are mine, the effect is seen in the list of all applications and in the tiles:
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       30 Sep 2017 #228

    cereberus said: View Post
    The 16299 build may have had some issues, that upgrading sorted.

    Only way of really telling is to see if it runs faster by doing a range of benchmarks against two clean installs.
    24c said: View Post
    I thought about this and decided it was too much effort.




    I cannot access the storage setting in 17004, as you stated, and I'm still trying to figure out what the "reveal" deal is with the start menu.
    Just run winsat formal in the command prompt, and then upload a copy of the Formal.Assessment (Recent).WinSAT.XML found here: C:\Windows\Performance\WinSAT\DataStore to oneDrive(to have a copy to compare with when on the other OS partition).
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    And then look at the scores here:
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    But you can glean even more info, by looking through the whole assessment.
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       30 Sep 2017 #229

    Oh also perfmon /report can be helpful too.
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