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  1.    04 Oct 2017 #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by slicendice View Post
    No IE issues here with that particular site...
    I also tried the link:

    Money: Personal finance news, advice information

    in IE11 on my machine. No problem either. Have you tried to reset IE11 in internet options > advanced tab > reset
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  2.    06 Oct 2017 #72
    Join Date : Nov 2015
    Posts : 61
    Win10 Home v.1703 Build 15063.608

    Microsoft's Flash broken by last week's WU (KB4040724)


    Flash was been a PITA for me - I have an HP OEM PC and so had to go to them for my Flash driver updates. Then sometime ago Microsoft brought in a fix - their version of Flash which they update. The last update from them for me was on the 13th September:
    2017-09 Security Update for Adobe Flash Player for Windows 10 Version 1703 for x64-based Systems (KB4038806)

    Flash was working fine until last week's strange*** WU:
    2017-09 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1703 for x64-based Systems (KB4040724)
    but it stopped working after that WU. I need Flash to view clips on the BBC (UK's equivalent of a Public Broadcasting Service) but this is what I see:

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Flash needs updating 2017-10 4th.PNG 
Views:	110 
Size:	45.4 KB 
ID:	156740

    I see no obvious reason why this strange WU should have broken Flash but it has. Does anyone else have this problem? Is there a solution eg should I go to HP? (I'd rather not download it from Adobe.)

    *** I say 'strange' because although the KB4040724 WU arrived on the 4th October it is shown in my WU Update History as a September WU, as you can see.

    PS Since the 4th October, I now have Win10 v1703 build 15063.632 and will change my signature soon.
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  3.    06 Oct 2017 #73
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    Watford
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    Windows 10 Home 64bit

    Are you sure that flash is enabled? In a lot of browsers this is not the default any more.
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  4.    06 Oct 2017 #74
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    Win10 Home v.1703 Build 15063.608

    Quote Originally Posted by kado897 View Post
    Are you sure that flash is enabled? In a lot of browsers this is not the default any more.
    Hello kado897. That's not it, unfortunately, and I'll explain why.
    Here's what I had to do when going to HP to update Flash:

    IE>Settings (via Gears icon)>Manage Add-ons>select 'All Add-ons' in SHOW>select Shockwave Flash Object>right-click to enable. Then install the HP Flash Update. When done, repeat all this but select Disable.

    Rather a heavy-handed procedure for Flash, probably the least secure of all Apps. So when Microsoft, in response to criticism, took control it was great. If I now go to Manage All Add-ons, I see under "Microsoft Windows Third Party Application Component" the Shockwave Flash Object. It's enabled and hovering over it I see it's version 27.0.0.130, dated 2nd September, which is the one installed on my PC on the 13th September.

    So, prior to the strange WU a few days ago, Flash was working but now it's not!
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  5.    07 Oct 2017 #75
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    Win10 Home v.1703 Build 15063.608

    Would I get my Flash back using System Restore ?


    A friend wonders whether I would get my Flash working again if I used System Restore to get back before this blasted WU was installed?

    If I did that though, wouldn't I lose the WU - and then have it automatically installed again later?
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  6.    07 Oct 2017 #76
    Join Date : Aug 2016
    S/E England
    Posts : 4,526
    10 Home x64 (1709) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)

    Quote Originally Posted by Taffy078 View Post
    I need Flash to view clips on the BBC...
    Actually, no - you don't. The BBC now supports HTML5 video. Here's Edge with Flash turned off....

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	bbc iPlayer - no Flash.PNG 
Views:	6 
Size:	896.8 KB 
ID:	156979

    Of course, if you insist on using IE you will need Flash, but only because IE is no longer being developed and doesn't support the newer and much more secure HTML5 video.
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  7.    07 Oct 2017 #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taffy078 View Post
    ... it's version 27.0.0.130, dated 2nd September, which is the one installed on my PC on the 13th September.
    So, prior to the strange WU a few days ago, Flash was working but now it's not!
    Strange - I have the same update, am on 15063.632 and IE's Flash is version 27.0.0.130. All BBC clips work in my IE.
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  8.    07 Oct 2017 #78
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    Canada
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bree View Post
    Actually, no - you don't. The BBC now supports HTML5 video. Here's Edge with Flash turned off....

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	bbc iPlayer - no Flash.PNG 
Views:	6 
Size:	896.8 KB 
ID:	156979

    Of course, if you insist on using IE you will need Flash, but only because IE is no longer being developed and doesn't support the newer and much more secure HTML5 video.
    On top of that, as far as I know, whenever a site is asking to download Flash in order for it to work in Edge, I never did. I only toggled the button for Flash in Advanced Settings to "On" as per Bree's screenshot. Thereafter, I only refreshed the page and that will do the trick.
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  9.    07 Oct 2017 #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by IronZorg89 View Post
    ...whenever a site is asking to download Flash in order for it to work in Edge, I never did...
    Actually, you can't - even if you wanted to. Flash in Edge (and IE) is supplied by Microsoft through windows update and all other ways of installing it are blocked by the system. You can install Flash in other browsers, but not the MS-supplied ones. Only windows update can do that.
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  10.    07 Oct 2017 #80
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bree View Post
    Actually, you can't - even if you wanted to. Flash in Edge (and IE) is supplied by Microsoft through windows update and all other ways of installing it are blocked by the system. You can install Flash in other browsers, but not the MS-supplied ones. Only windows update can do that.
    Thanks for the tip. I would have never known, for like I said I never tried to download Adobe Flash when asked by a site. But the question remains: Why taffy078's one is not working?. Could it be malware? Maybe , he should try to run adwCleaner from:

    Downloads - AdwCleaner - ToolsLib

    and scan his PC, just to make sure.
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