Windows 10: Windows 10 Fall Creators Update coming October 17th 2017

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  1.    15 Oct 2017 #140

    Hi,

    To faff: spend time in ineffectual activity.

    BTW, regarding clean installing: sometimes you have bugs in clean installs whereas you do not doing an upgrade install. Just saying...

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       15 Oct 2017 #141

    Rocky said: View Post
    I know that we are from different countries and all, but I am just curious....what does "faff" mean?
    My dictionary never lets me down, just clicking on the word and voila.
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  3.    15 Oct 2017 #142

    Rocky said: View Post
    I know that we are from different countries and all, but I am just curious....what does "faff" mean?

    British expression - faffing around just means messing around - often used as polite way of saying effing around. Emphasis is on messing around but in an uncoordinated manner somewhat.

    We also say its a real faff to do something i.e. PITA or nuisance.
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       15 Oct 2017 #143

    rezpower said: View Post
    For me a major update like this deserves a clean install...
    For me I have too much installed to do a clean install. Some of my apps are OEM-installed so I don't have media/keys to reinstall anyway.

    Fortunately my systems have upgraded at every major update without issue. Thanks to @RFS's link I've been able to try the upgrade on my test machine - this one upgrades smoothly too. In fact, 16299.15 was the easiest upgrade I've ever done.
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  5.    15 Oct 2017 #144

    rezpower said: View Post
    For me a major update like this deserves a clean install. I did a clean install when moving from 8.1 to 10 and then a clean on The last creators update and I will certainly do the same for this update. It's certainly not a must do! but I like to have a clean system from time to time. I just wonder when I will be able to get my hand on the ISO!? Will the Media creation tool be updated the same day or is there another way to get it fast?
    I think clean installs are grossly overrated unless they are absolutely necessary. It all involves too much work. The clean install part goes fast, but not so installing other software, replacing data and getting countless custom settings redone. All that involves 2 full days of work for me at minimum.

    On top of that, I don't consider going from build 15063.xx to 16299.15 a major update. I installed 16299.15 on 2 machines formerly running 15063.xx and hardly see any difference at all. Both got clean installs with Windows 10, but not since. My Insider Fast Ring PC hasn't had a clean install since August 2015, got every new build except one particularly troublesome one, and is currently running smoothly with 17017.
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       15 Oct 2017 #145

    Etymology

    From a dialect word meaning "blow in gusts".

    Also the ancient Hebrews used a similar term(in Hebrew of course)

    An example is Ecclesiastes 1:14: I reflected on everything that is accomplished by man on earth, and I concluded: Everything he has accomplished is futile--like chasing the wind!

    כמו לרדוף אחרי רוח
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  7.    15 Oct 2017 #146

    larc919 said: View Post
    I think clean installs are grossly overrated unless they are absolutely necessary. It all involves too much work. The clean install part goes fast, but not so installing other software, replacing data and getting countless custom settings redone. All that involves 2 full days of work for me at minimum.

    On top of that, I don't consider going from build 15063.xx to 16299.15 a major update. I installed 16299.15 on 2 machines formerly running 15063.xx and hardly see any difference at all. Both got clean installs with Windows 10, but not since. My Insider Fast Ring PC hasn't had a clean install since August 2015, got every new build except one particularly troublesome one, and is currently running smoothly with 17017.
    Same for me. I got everything I need backed up. Pictures and docs on NAS drives (in triplicate), music in the cloud (iTunes Match) and 99% of my games are steam so can be re downloaded. But the thought of clean installing and re installing hundreds of gigs of games and various apps is not palatable, not to mention getting each user account set back up how we like with shortcuts and settings etc etc is not palatable. Would take days and days to get things back where they were. Every update I just cross my fingers and hope it goes ok but I don’t like the fact MS puts us through it every six months especially as l also see very little difference in windows 10 from when I first laid eyes on it about two years ago.
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  8.    15 Oct 2017 #147

    Same here...The only time i do a clean install is when i get a new computer and want to have a pure Windows 10 installation with the manufacturer's provided junkware...

    So far, each time i have done the upgrade, it was extremely smooth and all my data and apps and settings were transferred over....
    maybe one or two settings had to be reset but that's about all...

    I am planning on doing the upgrade on wednesday...fingers crossed...:)
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       15 Oct 2017 #148

    I used the ISO Method from that official link mentioned earlier in the thread, wasn't planning on a clean install, but related to secondary drive issue and boot ssd, I ended up forced into a clean install, didn't take too long to get everything resetup, but more work than I originally planned on. Overall running great though in everything I do, games, music listening, video watching, web browsing, Nice and stable thus far here on 16299.15
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       15 Oct 2017 #149

    AMDMan2016 said: View Post
    I used the ISO Method from that official link mentioned earlier in the thread...
    More like semi-official - the links is a genuine Microsoft one, but it's not one Microsoft intended to publish. It downloads a Media Creation Tool that may (or may not) be the one that will go live on 17th. I've used it to install 1709 on my test machine, but I'm holding off on upgrading my main machine until I can get the official MCT and compare it with the one I used to make the install media.

    I want to be 100% certain the media I use to upgrade includes any last-minute bug fixes. I'll probably make new media after the official launch just to be sure. Having said that, the upgrade to 16299.15 on my test machine was smooth and painless, no apparent issues yet.
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