Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Skip Ahead Build 16353 for PC Insider

24c said:

This is what I get in Chrome
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By clicking on Keep Dangerous File
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Keep anyway allows the file to d/l to my machine

Maybe my Chrome is set up differently, but this is what I get. And all goes well.

CountMike said:

Sorry to hear that but something is not running right in that laptop. My second desktop with Phenom II and super slow HDD (WD 750 Green, 5400Rpm) that I took out of main computer and where was to slow even as data disk, takes "only" 2.5Hrs not counting download. Maybe your problem is with disk usage %. Both, that HDD and SSD in this one run at or close to 100% usage during some stages of update. Higher the usage, faster it would perform.

Kari said:

Everything else works, without issues. HDD, CPU and GPU are 100% working. I have tested this in every possible way. A clean install in early December took 18 minutes to OOBE, then upgrading to last ESD builds less than hour when done directly after the clean install, about an hour when done later. Same numbers with each and every ESD build.

My last clean install two weeks ago still took the same 18 minutes, but it took six hours to get to Restart now phase when upgrading to next Insider Skippy build after the clean install, build 16273. Yesterday's upgrade took just over five and a half hours, first over four hours to Restart now, then about 90 minutes for restart, the upgrade process itself.

The fastest upgrade since December (start of UUP) has taken about four hours, the slowest ESD upgrade was about an hour and a half, usually just under an hour.

Notice that upgrades now take about as long, around four five hours, on Hyper-V virtual machines on this host and about two three hours on VMware virtual machines. My Windows 10 tablet on same network also requires close to three hours for the upgrade.

@CountMike, I decided to show that this really is UUP issue, not hardware issue.

Only way to get ESD upgrade nowadays is to install version 1607 build 14393 or older and then upgrade. I installed W10 PRO build 14393 on this same laptop on an additional partition, and then let WU upgrade it to version 1703.

The ESD upgrade process, from moment the upgrade was found to Restart now took 40 minutes, over three hours faster than the fastest feature / build upgrade using UUP to same point:



It took then less than 40 minutes to restart and to get to upgraded desktop. Total time: just under an hour and 20 minutes, compared to my fastest UUP upgrade to desktop at about four and a half hours.

I can repeat this at will anytime: slowest ESD upgrade: about an hour and a half. Fastest UUP upgrade: at least four and a half hours. Same hardware.

Conclusion: No, it's not because of my hardware.

f14tomcat said:

Maybe my Chrome is set up differently, but this is what I get. And all goes well.

Interesting - now I'll have to look through the Chrome security settings

Kari said:

@CountMike, I decided to show that this really is UUP issue, not hardware issue.

Only way to get ESD upgrade nowadays is to install version 1607 build 14393 or older and then upgrade. I installed W10 PRO build 14393 on this same laptop on an additional partition, and then let WU upgrade it to version 1703.

The ESD upgrade process, from moment the upgrade was found to Restart now took 40 minutes, over three hours faster than the fastest feature / build upgrade using UUP to same point:



It took then less than 40 minutes to restart and to get to upgraded desktop. Total time: just under an hour and 20 minutes, compared to my fastest UUP upgrade to desktop at about four and a half hours.

I can repeat this at will anytime: slowest ESD upgrade: about an hour and a half. Fastest UUP upgrade: at least four and a half hours. Same hardware.

Conclusion: No, it's not because of my hardware.

There's no question that UUP is slower than ESD way but HW quality still makes difference.
Same build not counting download:
Computer1, (SSD) less than an hour, actually closer to half an hour.
Computer 2, (Slow HDD) 2.5+ hrs.

CountMike said:

There's no question that UUP is slower than ESD way but HW quality still makes difference.
Same build not counting download:
Computer1, (SSD) less than an hour, actually closer to half an hour.
Computer 2, (Slow HDD) 2.5+ hrs.

And somehow (beats me), on a VM (VMWare), I just went from 16257 > 16353 in 13 minutes....soup to nuts!

LEOPEVA64 said:

The whole process? including downloading?

Yes, Sir! I can't explain it. Just zipped.................had 4 processors assigned on an SSD and 8GB mem. I had previously compressed (compacted) the VM before restarting it.

Took me about an hour to upgrade and Zip a backup of the UUP-files at maximum compression on Hyper-V with 4 cores and 4GB RAM. Compressing took about 20 minutes.

On the host the same process took about 30 minutes longer, but I guess it is because I have VS2017 and Office365 installed.

First time to upgrade (on Skip or Fast) that it actually took less than 2 hours. From start to desktop and OneDrive up to date took 1 hour 52 minutes. For me that was fast. Store now works but every time I try to uninstall Farcebook, Twitt and those godamn games apps installed by default it messed up the Store's ability to update any apps. So will leave them well alone for now.