Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Skip Ahead Build 16353 for PC Insider

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  1. Posts : 17,661
    Windows 10 Pro
       #80

    martyfelker said:
    OK. I have a program on Windows 10 that has identified the Trojan in UUPtoISO that is being flagged by the AV scans of both Chrome and FF. Do with this information as you wish Kari. Also I am less concerned about making ISO since Microsoft posted a new Canary which was compiled Monday. 10.0.16354.1000 (rs_prerelease.170828-1640)[/B]

    Maybe the Trojan was causing the program to abort. I'll leave it for Kari to investigate. But obviously the program should NOT be hosted on the Ten Forums servers.
    That is a false positive. There's no trojan in the tool. It works, the only thing you have to do if you get it flagged is to tell your IObit Malware Fighter program that it is a false positive. If you do not know how to do it, consult the help files and documentation of that application.

    There is nothing in the code of the tool that causes it to abort.

    cereberus said:
    Worked the second time but took ages. Something is seriously fubared
    with uup.

    Does anybody know if the old regedit to force full install.esd method still work?
    In my tests I've got it to work only when installing Anniversary Update version 1607 build 14393, opting in for Fast Ring and upgrading. In fact, not only does it work in this scenario but it is the only option.
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  2. Posts : 19,518
    W11+W11 Developer Insider + Linux
       #81

    Kari said:
    Although sorry to hear that, I have to say it's good to know I am not alone with this issue.
    Sorry to hear that but something is not running right in that laptop. My second desktop with Phenom II and super slow HDD (WD 750 Green, 5400Rpm) that I took out of main computer and where was to slow even as data disk, takes "only" 2.5Hrs not counting download. Maybe your problem is with disk usage %. Both, that HDD and SSD in this one run at or close to 100% usage during some stages of update. Higher the usage, faster it would perform.
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  3. Posts : 17,661
    Windows 10 Pro
       #82

    CountMike said:
    Sorry to hear that but something is not running right in that laptop. My second desktop with Phenom II and super slow HDD (WD 750 Green, 5400Rpm) that I took out of main computer and where was to slow even as data disk, takes "only" 2.5Hrs not counting download. Maybe your problem is with disk usage %. Both, that HDD and SSD in this one run at or close to 100% usage during some stages of update. Higher the usage, faster it would perform.
    Everything else works, without issues. HDD, CPU and GPU are 100% working. I have tested this in every possible way. A clean install in early December took 18 minutes to OOBE, then upgrading to last ESD builds less than hour when done directly after the clean install, about an hour when done later. Same numbers with each and every ESD build.

    My last clean install two weeks ago still took the same 18 minutes, but it took six hours to get to Restart now phase when upgrading to next Insider Skippy build after the clean install, build 16273. Yesterday's upgrade took just over five and a half hours, first over four hours to Restart now, then about 90 minutes for restart, the upgrade process itself.

    The fastest upgrade since December (start of UUP) has taken about four hours, the slowest ESD upgrade was about an hour and a half, usually just under an hour.

    Notice that upgrades now take about as long, around four five hours, on Hyper-V virtual machines on this host and about two three hours on VMware virtual machines. My Windows 10 tablet on same network also requires close to three hours for the upgrade.
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  4. Posts : 4,666
    Windows 10 Pro x64 21H1 Build 19043.1151 (Branch: Release Preview)
       #83

    Just installed this on my IP VM. No issues so far.
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  5. Posts : 4,666
    Windows 10 Pro x64 21H1 Build 19043.1151 (Branch: Release Preview)
       #84

    Kari said:
    I am not sure if you have simply refused to understand what has been told several times, but let's repeat this one more time: That is a so called false positive. There's no trojan in the tool. It works, the only thing you have to do if you get it flagged is to tell your IObit Malware Fighter program that it is a false positive. If you do not know how to do it, consult the help files and documentation of that application.

    There is nothing in the code of the tool that causes it to abort. Not knowing the download figures (there's no way to tell how many times a file has been downloaded from OneDrive), there are for sure at least thousands of satisfied users of that tool, judging by the 100K+ plus views the tutorial has got in its 8 months of existence. The only person continuously complaining about it and spreading this false information is you.

    For your information, although Designer Media Ltd, the company owning Ten Forums and its sister sites has digitally signed the installer, the installer is not hosted on Ten Forums servers. It is hosted by Microsoft, on my personal OneDrive.

    The interesting thing about this false positive is that sometimes I get a hit and sometimes not. Most often Windows defender does not react at all to the UUP2ISO setup file.

    I wonder what is going on here... :)
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  6. Posts : 17,661
    Windows 10 Pro
       #85

    slicendice said:
    The interesting thing about this false positive is that sometimes I get a hit and sometimes not. Most often Windows defender does not react at all to the UUP2ISO setup file.

    I wonder what is going on here... :)
    I have emailed those AV / Malware scan makers I know that falsely flag either the installer or the tool itself, waiting it to be cleared. I will post in tutorial thread as soon as I have something more to tell.
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  7. Posts : 15,480
    Windows10
       #86

    martyfelker said:
    Not sure how to find a link to my feedback on the Hub but here's the text of the suggestion.

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    The last upgrade I made to build 16353 from 16273 (Fast/Skip Ahead ring) used 27.5 GB which is more than one-third of the disk space I have allocated on a small SSD. I also dual boot with Windows Server 2016 and Debian Sid.I've long thought that an option to skip the windows.old folder (and other update folders) should be provided with a confirmation which you already have with Disk Cleanup. This would likely reduce the update time significantly as well as being a service for those of us running Windows 10 IP's on notebooks as well.

    -------------------------------------------------------------
    If you go back to hub, and read it, there is an option to share the link e.g.

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  8. Posts : 4,666
    Windows 10 Pro x64 21H1 Build 19043.1151 (Branch: Release Preview)
       #87

    Kari said:
    I have emailed those AV / Malware scan makers I know that falsely flag either the installer or the tool itself, waiting it to be cleared. I will post in tutorial thread as soon as I have something more to tell.
    I think the problem is the tool itself as the latest original script also gets marked as Troijan. Currently only Chrome flags the file(s) as dangerous when attempting to download. WD does not react at all, nor does Edge nor IE.

    Interesting! :)
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  9. 24c
    Posts : 979
    Win 10 Prox64 - latest "final"
       #88

    slicendice said:
    I think the problem is the tool itself as the latest original script also gets marked as Troijan. Currently only Chrome flags the file(s) as dangerous when attempting to download. WD does not react at all, nor does Edge nor IE.

    Interesting! :)
    This is what I get in Chrome
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    By clicking on Keep Dangerous File
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    Keep anyway allows the file to d/l to my machine
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  10. 24c
    Posts : 979
    Win 10 Prox64 - latest "final"
       #89

    slicendice said:
    I think the problem is the tool itself as the latest original script also gets marked as Troijan. Currently only Chrome flags the file(s) as dangerous when attempting to download. WD does not react at all, nor does Edge nor IE.
    Interesting! :)
    Using Firefox
    Asked to run or save file
    Pick SAVE
    d/l arrow in upper right of browser shows a "warning dot"
    Click on d/l arrow - SHOW ALL DOWNLOADS
    right click on UUPtoISOSetup.exe
    ALLOW DOWNLOAD
    You get d/l


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    EDGE shows no notifications - just d/l the file
    These results are on MY machine - YMMV
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