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  1.    10 Aug 2017 #1
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    64-bit Windows 10 Pro build 17040

    Microsoft announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations


    Windows 10 Pro for Workstations is a high-end edition of Windows 10 Pro, comes with unique support for server grade PC hardware and is designed to meet demanding needs of mission critical and compute intensive workloads.

    We know that power users have unique needs to run efficiently and we take the feedback we hear seriously. Much of that valuable feedback comes through the Windows Insider Program. Today we are very excited to announce a new edition of Windows 10 Pro designed to meet the needs of our advanced users deploying their Workstation PCs in demanding and mission-critical scenarios. Windows 10 Pro for Workstations will be delivered as part of our Fall Creators Update, available this fall.



    Windows 10 Pro for Workstations, created with feedback from Windows Insiders, introduces new features to leverage the power of high-end PC hardware

    The value of Windows 10 Pro for Workstations is directly aligned to increase the performance and reliability of high-end PCs, with the following features:

    • ReFS (Resilient file system): ReFS provides cloud-grade resiliency for data on fault-tolerant storage spaces and manages very large volumes with ease. ReFS is designed to be resilient to data corruption, optimized for handling large data volumes, auto-correcting and more. It protects your data with integrity streams on your mirrored storage spaces. Using its integrity streams, ReFS detects when data becomes corrupt on one of the mirrored drives and uses a healthy copy of your data on the other drive to correct and protect your precious data.
    • Persistent memory: Windows 10 Pro for Workstations provides the most demanding apps and data with the performance they require with non-volatile memory modules (NVDIMM-N) hardware. NVDIMM-N enables you to read and write your files with the fastest speed possible, the speed of the computer’s main memory. Because NVDIMM-N is non-volatile memory, your files will still be there, even when you switch your workstation off.
    • Faster file sharing: Windows 10 Pro for Workstations includes a feature called SMB Direct, which supports the use of network adapters that have Remote Direct Memory Access (RDMA) capability. Network adapters that have RDMA can function at full speed with very low latency, while using very little CPU. For applications that access large datasets on remote SMB file shares, this feature enables:
      • Increased throughput: Leverages the full throughput of high speed networks where the network adapters coordinate the transfer of large amounts of data at line speed.
      • Low latency: Provides extremely fast responses to network requests, and, as a result, makes remote file storage feel as if it is directly attached storage.
      • Low CPU utilization: Uses fewer CPU cycles when transferring data over the network, which leaves more power available to other applications running on the system.

    • Expanded hardware support: One of the top pain points expressed by our Windows Insiders was the limits on taking advantage of the raw power of their machine. Hence, we are expanding hardware support in Windows 10 Pro for Workstations. Users will now be able to run Windows 10 Pro for Workstations on devices with high performance configurationsincluding server grade Intel Xeon or AMD Opteron processors, with up to 4 CPUs (today limited to 2 CPUs) and add massive memory up to 6TB (today limited to 2TB).

    Performance is a very important requirement in this new world of fast paced innovation and we will continue to invest on Windows 10 Pro for Workstations to enable Windows power users to maximize every aspect of their high-performance device. Windows 10 Pro for Workstations utilizes significant investments, that Windows has made in recent releases, for scaling up across a high number of logical processors and large amounts of memory. Our architectural changes in the Windows kernel take full advantage of high-end processors families, such as Intel Xeon or AMD Opteron, that package a high number of cores in single or multi-processor configurations.

    Thank you to our customers and Windows Insiders for your feedback. We look forward to continuing to hear from you.


    Source: Microsoft announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations - Windows For Your Business


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  2.    10 Aug 2017 #2
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    Windows 10

    Basically making some Server features available in a Desktop OS. I imagine the price will be quite high, but if you are running a computer with 4 CPUs, it's probably not much of a concern.
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  3.    11 Aug 2017 #3
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    W7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), LM 18.2 MATE (64 bit), W10 Home (64 bit)

    Yet another version of W10.
    So much for "one version of Windows everywhere".

    If you throw in the special versions (K, N, ?) the count must be up to 20+ by now.

    From AskWoody:
    On the other hand, we now have Windows 10 Home, Pro, Enterprise, Mobile, Mobile Enterprise, Education, Pro Education, IoT Core, the new Win10 S, and now Windows 10 Pro for Workstation PCs.

    Then there are other editions that aren’t officially listed as such, but they’re certainly in the same genre: the two Long Term Servicing Channels, LTSC 2015 (formerly LTSB 1507/RTM) and LTSC 2016 (formerly LTSB 1607) and the long-term branch of 1607 that’s only offered to the 10 million customers with Clover Trail Atom processors (per Ed Bott at ZDNet). Not to mention “Microsoft 365,” which bundles Win10, Office, and Enterprise Mobility and Security, in both E3 and E5 flavors.
    And people complain about how many Linux Distros there are.
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  4.    12 Aug 2017 #4

    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Yet another version of W10.
    So much for "one version of Windows everywhere".

    If you throw in the special versions (K, N, ?) the count must be up to 20+ by now.

    From AskWoody:

    And people complain about how many Linux Distros there are.
    Hi there

    Most people don't complain about the number of Linux Distros. About 99% of the non enterprise lot use essentially CENTOS, SUSE, FEDORA (also a Red hat clone like centos which has some leading edge technology that doesn't always work), DEBIAN or MINT. Fedora is probably used by developers who want the "Latest and Greatest" == some of those things make it eventually into the CENTOS repositories -- but the whole concept of CENTOS like RHEL is to keep the OS stable and only update when needed.

    All these are very user customizable -- however for stability CENTOS - free open source based on RHEL enterprise and supported by REDHAT and 100% FREE (based on RED HAT SERVER - used hugely throughout the world for servers) is mega stable and with a company like REDHAT behind it will be certainly OK to run on your desktop.

    CentOS Linux 7 (1708); based on RHEL 7.4 Source Code Seven.CentOS.org

    I use CENTOS on my NAS servers rather than B/S things like proprietary QNAP type of systems. -For starters you can install whatever you like on your NAS and it will work 100% of the time --REDHAT doesn't release rubbish.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  5.    12 Aug 2017 #5
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    Windows 10 IoT

    I'll have a look see when it shows up on MSDN. Still waiting for Pro Education to show up.
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  6.    12 Aug 2017 #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Most people don't complain about the number of Linux Distros.
    Linux users don't complain about the number of distros.

    In the comments on multiple forums , Windows fanboys (and trolls in general) regularly mention "too many distros" as a reason for not switching from Windows to Linux (in addition to "using the terminal" and "Windows only software" excuses).
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  7.    13 Aug 2017 #7

    Hi folks.

    actually this is a GOOD idea -- lots of high end computer hardware out there -- where a server like OS is ideal for some home users who are considering some sort of basic server set up at home --e.g multi-media streaming, file backup, file sharing, Internet gateway for internet control where you have some kids etc etc. Running a full blown commercial server edition isn't the answer here but a decent "Server" like OS would fit the bill -- I think there will be quite a few takers.

    Good thing with this is that you can control USB device usage etc and the file system is so much better than NTFS which while good in its day is definitely passed it's sell by date -- the new system should finally give Windows software RAID proper speed and stability.

    The direct SMB facility also should finally get rid of slow file shares with Windows too -- great for corporate servers as well. Not sure though ig a DESKTOP would really be concerned with max Memory size of 6TB though -- don't think I've even seen any 1TB memory chips -- but in a server this would be great for "In memory" type data bases -- I believe SAP HANA is going along that sort of "In Memory" type of approach.

    I can see also a load of Enterprise users (corporations etc) who are still using W7 having a look at this too -- so a good move for Ms.

    Myself though I won't probably use it as I'm happy with Linux for my NAS needs but I will certainly try it out as a VM if I can get my hands on a copy - even as a trial.

    Hope also that finally the rediculous 256 Char limit on file+directory name limit is gone in the new file system too -- although I haven't seen that mentioned in the specs so far.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  8.    13 Aug 2017 #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Yet another version of W10.
    So much for "one version of Windows everywhere".

    If you throw in the special versions (K, N, ?) the count must be up to 20+ by now.

    From AskWoody:

    And people complain about how many Linux Distros there are.
    Looking at a recent Product.ini that arrived with one of the Windows 10 S editions, there are 115 editions of Windows 10:

    Code:
    professionalworkstationn
    enterpriseneval
    serverazurecor
    serverrdshCore
    serverstorageworkgroupeval
    serverstandardeval
    serverarm64
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    educationn
    serverdatacentereval
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    serverazurecorCore
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    coresinglelanguage
    professionalcountryspecific
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    serverstandardcor
    serverarm64Core
    embeddede
    serverdatacentercorCore
    serverazurenano
    coren
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    serverstandardevalcor
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    serverwebCore
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    enterprisegn
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    serverrdsh
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    serverstandard
    serversolution
    serverdatacenteracorCore
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    serverstoragestandardCore
    enterprisesn
    serverdatacenternano
    servercloudstorageCore
    cloud
    ppipro
    serverstandardacorCore
    serverstandardnano
    professionaleducation
    serverstandardevalCore
    serverstorageworkgroupCore
    serversolutionCore
    serverstoragestandardeval
    professionaleducationn
    professionalworkstation
    serverstoragestandardevalCore
    enterprises
    startern
    serverstandardevalcorCore
    serverstorageworkgroup
    serverdatacenteracor
    servercloudstorage
    mobilecore
    serverazurenanoCore
    serverstorageworkgroupevalCore
    serverstoragestandard
    serverdatacenter
    serverdatacenterevalCore
    corecountryspecific
    serverstandardacor
    serverstandardcorCore
    enterprisen
    enterprisesneval
    iotuap
    serverstandardnanoCore
    professionalsinglelanguage
    serverdatacentercor
    serverstandardCore
    gvlkcoresinglelanguage
    gvlkcore
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    gvlkserverazurecor
    gvlkserverrdshCore
    gvlkenterprisesn
    gvlkservercloudstorageCore
    gvlkprofessionaleducation
    gvlkcoren
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    gvlkservercloudstorage
    gvlkeducationn
    gvlkserversolutionCore
    gvlkeducation
    gvlkenterprise
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    gvlkprofessionalworkstation
    gvlkserverdatacenter
    gvlkenterprises
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    gvlkenterprisegn
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    gvlkenterpriseg
    gvlkserverrdsh
    gvlkserverstandardCore
    gvlkserverstandard
    gvlkserversolution
    gvlkserverdatacenterCore
    This seems to be another "Toe in the water" exercise to test the readiness of the userbase to move to a new filesystem, that's been around for a fairly long time now, without much real-world useage.
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  9.    13 Aug 2017 #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Linux users don't complain about the number of distros.

    In the comments on multiple forums , Windows fanboys (and trolls in general) regularly mention "too many distros" as a reason for not switching from Windows to Linux (in addition to "using the terminal" and "Windows only software" excuses).

    Gosh this is so tiresome a response - pot calling the kettle back given Linuxians are by far worse trolls!

    I have yet to see a single Linux Distro that runs the range of software I need, especially work related programs. It is not an excuse - it is a fact. There is no Linux distro that runs MS Office, and Linuxians always bullshit about alternatives but they are only any good for basic stuff. There are countless engineering apps that do not run on Linux.

    No matter how good a Linux install is, you inevitably have to delve into terminal sessions to often do fairly basic things,

    The Windows versions are each targeted at a specific set of persons. For most domestic users, there are only three versions (Home, Pro and Education). The N versions were necesary to comply with EU law, but you are not obliged to use it, and indeed most EU persons I know simply use the normal versions.

    For domestic users, there are so many distros, and no obvious way of choosing which is better. Hell, they are not even that compatible with each other - commands that work on one do not work on another.

    By and large Windows works the same across all versions but of course Home has more restrictions than Pro etc. But the base stuff is identical.

    Sure Linux has its place eg server market, but as a general all purpose tool - don't make me laugh!
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  10.    13 Aug 2017 #10
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    You seem a bit blinded by anger, lets see some facts:

    Quote Originally Posted by cereberus View Post
    There is no Linux distro that runs MS Office
    The fact is that there is no MS Office that support Linux

    Quote Originally Posted by cereberus View Post
    and Linuxians always bullshit about alternatives but they are only any good for basic stuff. There are countless engineering apps that do not run on Linux.
    Yes there are many apps that do not support Linux, this is because of market share, the same reason is used by
    linux fanboy to state that there are no virus for linux.
    Also you can write pretty "advanced rocket science" stuff in Libreoffice, maybe you are confusing deep tool
    integration with a microsoft infracstucture with what you actually write down.
    In the end there are some alternatives, some are good, even better, some are crap.

    Quote Originally Posted by cereberus View Post
    No matter how good a Linux install is, you inevitably have to delve into terminal sessions to often do fairly basic things,
    Not my experience at all, you need it if you have to do something "nerdy".
    But let's see an actual fairly basic example, removing a program i.e. Photo APP can you do it in windows without
    delving into the command line?


    Quote Originally Posted by cereberus View Post
    commands that work on one do not work on another.
    Total nonsense

    Quote Originally Posted by cereberus View Post
    By and large Windows works the same across all versions but of course Home has more restrictions than Pro etc. But the base stuff is identical.
    Well yes it is obvious.

    Quote Originally Posted by cereberus View Post
    Sure Linux has its place eg server market, but as a general all purpose tool - don't make me laugh!
    There are use cases that let you use "Linux" let's say you need to browse, mail, write docs,
    you can surely do that; (also for programming, database, web dev, etc it's an excelent learning tool)

    I think this are more simple facts.
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