Windows 10: Microsoft Releases Windows 10 S ISO to Developers, Education Customers

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    Windows 10 Pro
       29 Jul 2017 #31

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    Don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say anything about insider builds one way or the other. And for the record once you install Home or Pro via the MCT, you can accept insider builds. Your not locked out from ever running them.
    I did not put any words to your mouth. You said you do recommend MCT instead of Rufus. MCT cannot make an install media for an Insider build, ergo it's not an advice to Insiders needing USB to clean install an Insider build.


    alphanumeric said: View Post
    I was talking about Education only accepting setup with a personal or domain / Azure AD account. Its that or setup with a Local account and then switch to a Microsoft ID. I didn't mention Home anywhere? yes I should have clued in as you say that it was closer to Pro than Home. I was just happy I could do it the easy way and moved on. It's not full Pro though, first thing I saw on the Activation screen was an "Upgrade to Pro message". and it wants a Pro key to do so?
    You said that you think your Windows 10 S was digitally activated based on your Windows 10 Home license. I simply told that it is wrong. It is a PRO, only difference being this with Win32 apps. When set up it allows you to choose between a personal (local or Microsoft) account and work / school (domain / Azure AD) account.

    I thought, and still think that this one detail is important enough to be told correctly: Windows 10 S is PRO and will require an S or PRO product key. It will be automatically activated if the machine in question has an existing PRO license. It can't be activated with Windows 10 Home product key or digital license.

    Kari
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  2.    29 Jul 2017 #32

    10-S is not Pro, it is 10-S. To get all of the features of Pro you need to upgrade to Pro. It's not Home either, its somewhere in between. actually its missing features that even Home has, no command prompt for instance. If you want to do a clean install of an insider build, just use windows native built in utility to create your install media, namely diskpart.
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    Windows 10 Pro IP Build 16299.19 (Branch: RS3 Release)
       29 Jul 2017 #33

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    10-S is not Pro, it is 10-S. To get all of the features of Pro you need to upgrade to Pro. It's not Home either, its somewhere in between. If you want to do a clean install of an insider build, just use windows native built in utility to create your install media, namely diskpart.
    It has all the PRO features, but lack the ability to run win32 apps or any third party apps that does not come from the Store and are digitally signed by Microsoft. Just like @Kari said.
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  4.    29 Jul 2017 #34

    slicendice said: View Post
    It has all the PRO features, but lack the ability to run win32 apps or any third party apps that does not come from the Store and are digitally signed by Microsoft. Just like @Kari said.
    No command prompt for one, so it does not have all the features of Pro, or even Home for that matter.
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    Windows 10 Pro IP Build 16299.19 (Branch: RS3 Release)
       29 Jul 2017 #35

    CMD does not define PRO, that is available in almost all Windows editions.
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  6.    29 Jul 2017 #36

    slicendice said: View Post
    CMD does not define PRO, that is available in almost all Windows editions.
    Every version except S it would appear. No Power shell either.
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    Windows 10 Pro IP Build 16299.19 (Branch: RS3 Release)
       29 Jul 2017 #37

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    Every version except S it would appear. No Power shell either.
    Is Powershell or CMD Windows Store apps? NO! --> They are not allowed to RUN or be used.
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  8.    29 Jul 2017 #38

    slicendice said: View Post
    Is Powershell or CMD Windows Store apps? NO! --> They are not allowed to RUN or be used.
    Group Policy Editor isn't a store app but I can run that? I also see Flash Player (32-bit) in Control Panel. If you want to call it Pro, call it Pro. IMHO its not Pro. And that's the last I'll say about it.
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    Windows 10 Pro IP Build 16299.19 (Branch: RS3 Release)
       29 Jul 2017 #39

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    Group Policy Editor isn't a store app but I can run that? I also see Flash Player (32-bit) in Control Panel. If you want to call it Pro, call it Pro. IMHO its not Pro. And that's the last I'll say about it.
    Here's how you can simulate S using your Pro media.

    Simulate Windows S
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    Windows 10 Pro IP Build 16299.19 (Branch: RS3 Release)
       29 Jul 2017 #40

    I So regret that I am not a VS Pro/MSDN subscriber. Would be nice to test these kind of things out.

    The price for such subscription isn't that bad either once one makes the initial payment.
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