Microsoft Releases Windows 10 S ISO to Developers, Education Customers

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  1. Posts : 15,037
    Windows 10 IoT
       #90

    It let me install Word Mobile, in "Read only mode". To edit and save an Office 365 subscription is required.
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  2. Posts : 15,037
    Windows 10 IoT
       #91

    slicendice said:
    That is weird behavior. On the other hand, Office is not a Store App so you should not try make that work until you have upgraded to Windows Pro. Office is not intended to be run on Windows S. :)

    If I understand correctly, the education part is intended as educational apps coming from Windows Store. Office is just a collection of document manipulation editors and does not fall into the educational app category at all but rather into the productivity category. I think the idea here is that a School has it's own Office servers, the students run Edge browser and manipulate their documents using office online editors.
    The thing is though, why put the tiles there for Excel, Word and PowerPoint if they won't work and can't be installed from those tiles? IMHO, they have a few kinks to work out.
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  3. Posts : 4,666
    Windows 10 Pro x64 21H1 Build 19043.1151 (Branch: Release Preview)
       #92

    Agree, all that stuff should really be hidden until upgraded to Win Pro :)

    EDIT: Schools however create a model installation, configure that and then capture all that to some deployment server and finally deploy the working image to all computers they want Windows with this configuration to be installed on. Everything can be configured. No point in making installations for weeks, when you can just click one button and all computers are ready to go within an hour.
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 21H1 Build 19043.1151 (Branch: Release Preview)
       #93

    Since I am quite certain I understand what Windows 10 S is and how it differs from Windows 10 Pro or the other editions, I see no point in personally testing it any further. I know what limitations a strict policy brings to the table.
    Only thing I could test, is making a model machine with some configuration, capture that to a server and then have a few computers (or VMs) where I use PXE boot to deploy the image and see how goes. Then maybe modify my model machine and force push the new image to the already working machines.

    But I see no point in doing this either, as I could do it with any Windows edition, and they all work the same. The whole Installing, configuring, capturing, deploying process is the same for all the latest Windows editions. Nothing special about this.
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  5. Posts : 15,037
    Windows 10 IoT
       #94

    slicendice said:
    Agree, all that stuff should really be hidden until upgraded to Win Pro :)

    EDIT: Schools however create a model installation, configure that and then capture all that to some deployment server and finally deploy the working image to all computers they want Windows with this configuration to be installed on. Everything can be configured. No point in making installations for weeks, when you can just click one button and all computers are ready to go within an hour.
    Yeah, imaging will be the way to go. I'm logged in with my Microsoft ID instead of my Office 365 account. I may setup a second user account with that and see if it changes anything?
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  6. Posts : 15,037
    Windows 10 IoT
       #95

    Added my Office 365 Account to my existing account but still can't edit in Word. I had to add the office 365 account to that App in its settings. Then I got a "you've been upgraded message. This may be old news to some of you but its all new stuff for me.
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  7. Posts : 1,983
    Windows 10 x86 14383 Insider Pro and Core 10240
       #96

    Just a few little hints from TF members in this thread, and some help from Microsoft docs:

    Windows 10 S manufacturing overview | Microsoft Docs

    - and Windows 10 S in manufacturing mode can be made to work almost like Pro:

    Microsoft Releases Windows 10 S ISO to Developers, Education Customers-s-n-all.png

    Once all modifications are made, manufacturing mode is removed and the image can be deployed to the users.

    As you can see, the Command- and Power- shells seem to work ok, and Superfly's ShowkeyPlus works where they wouldn't in 10 S before

    Portable Win32 applications work fine - even old Word 97 and Excel 97 run from across network, but installing stuff from online like Chrome seemed to be a no-no. Downloaded Office 2007 fileformatconvertors.exe threw up the warning:

    Microsoft Releases Windows 10 S ISO to Developers, Education Customers-warn.png

    and the contents of the .exe had to be extracted from the exe using 7-zip, and then the O12conv.msi runs fine from within the extracted folder.

    If you don't muck about with this edition, as I did above, it should behave perfectly as an Insider testbed, since it is locked down, and no extraneous rubbish should seep in (unless perhaps Internet Explorer is used, and people are careless with emails). However it is clinically sterile.

    If It were widely used, it might encourage a better range of serious useful Windows Store utilities - which are still woefully poor for the most part.

    But I agree with Slice' when there's no real interest in using this version for testing in its sterile form, and it's easy to deploy.

    One other thing though:
    Dism is DISMally slow mounting and unmounting wimfiles for modification. Wimlib-Imagex is much faster!
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  8. Posts : 17,661
    Windows 10 Pro
       #97

    Fafhrd said:
    JOnce all modifications are made, manufacturing mode is removed and the image can be deployed to the users.
    Had no issues in enabling manufacturer mode, makes this S edition quite interesting. It most definitely adds an additional layer of security; as an admin I can prepare the image, install software and deploy, being sure no user can tamper with it :)

    I am starting to like the S edition!
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  9. Posts : 5,286
    Win 10 Pro x64
       #98

    Okay, just fired up a test drive.
    This thing seems to take longer to install than a regular pro edition...

    Microsoft Releases Windows 10 S ISO to Developers, Education Customers-img_20170731_193016_1.jpg

    I got the "just a moment" screen like a hundred times (just an exag)...

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  10. Posts : 5,286
    Win 10 Pro x64
       #99

    alphanumeric said:
    Got my NVidia GT 610 back. :) I went to the NVidia site and downloaded the latest Windows 10 driver for my card. It's one big exe file so I ran that (on my 10 Pro PC) and let it extract itself to a folder. Then canceled the install when it started scanning hardware. Then I took the whole lot and copied it to my thumb drive. Then plugged that into my 10-S PC. Opened Device Manager, did the update driver, Browse my computer, and pointed it to the "Display.Driver" folder on my thumb drive. It accepted it and went to updating drivers. Took a while but now I have the correct resolution for my monitor. That folder is full of inf files, which is what I think its looking for?
    My graphics driver (ASUS GTX 1070) got installed automatically during installation...

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    Last edited by badrobot; 31 Jul 2017 at 19:36.
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