Announcing Windows 10 Insider Slow Build 16251 PC Insider

Tony K · 27 Jul 2017

slicendice said:

@f14tomcat thanks for the screenshots.

The Release version is now 16251.0 while the Skip Ahead version is 16251.1000 and will soon become 170xx.1000. Meanwhile the Release version should go from revision 0 to about 20-100 before final release to the general public.

After Windows has been officially released, Fast Ringers on the Release builds will also start receiving 170xx-builds which should be released for the general public in spring 2018. :)

Never mind. I get it now. Thanks.

So I guess it's off for me to upgrade again.

slicendice · 27 Jul 2017

sgage said:

The release build is 16251.0, the version is still 1703 until release, when they will call it 1709 or whatever. Let's not mix up the terms 'version' and 'build'. This business is confusing enough as it is...

I was referring to the different versions of build 16251, NOT different Windows versions.

sgage · 27 Jul 2017

slicendice said:

I was referring to the different versions of build 16251, NOT different Windows versions.

Then say "the build number for the upcoming release version is 16251. 0" and "the Skip Ahead build number is 16251.1000" or something like that. Version means version. Like I said, MS has made this whole mess as confusing as hell (and make it moreso week by week it seems), and I think it would be as well if we could not mix and match terminology. Whatever.

slicendice · 27 Jul 2017

@sgage Yes it's a bit confusing...

16251 stands for Build
0 and 1000 stands for Revision

Build means that the whole source code with new features has been rebuilt, while Revision means that only binaries with bug fixes has been rebuilt (no new features).

Revision 0 is the initial build mark as "almost ready for release" while Revision 1000 is just a number that is higher than probable revision they will do till next Windows version will come out.

We also see Revision 1001, which is a different team working on same Windows version and builds, but work on different features.

Shall we complicate this even further? we still have a lot of other numbers to talk about! :)

LEOPEVA64 · 27 Jul 2017

Jack07 said:

I still have issues with the Deezer app, anyone using it? The issue appeared with build 16241 and it's still there. I don't know if it's the windows or the app, but after playing or skipping two songs the app becomes unresponsive and that's it.
MPC-HC still slow to open.

I have those same problems with Deezer and with MPC-HC, Also Paint continues with the same issue of other builds, it takes five seconds to save an image.

pirix · 27 Jul 2017

slicendice said:

@pirix All buttons work great for me, what button are you referring to?

Quick example of what the buttons does:
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Mostly I am missing the normal sized keyboard. On my another tablet (Lenovo miix 320, 15063.483) has not this problem, this one is China made tablet Teclast X98 Plus. Can be driver issue too.

Tony K · 27 Jul 2017

I'm updating to Windows Insider x64 build 16251.RS_preview. :)

When it comes to Edge > I have no problems importing favorites from IE or any other problems whatsoever. It's a great, quick browser.

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slicendice · 27 Jul 2017

LEOPEVA64 said:

I have those same problems with Deezer and with MPC-HC, Also Paint continues with the same issue of other builds, it takes five seconds to save an image.

There must be something wrongly coded in MPC-HC, since I can see a lot of reports on problem dating several years back.

Paint is working really great for me. I guess it's slow because I think they have moved to .NET assemblies instead of C++ code and the .NET Optimizer has not yet precompiled some of the code to native binaries. I think MS is making Paint ready for a move to the Windows Store.

kado897 · 27 Jul 2017

CountMike said:

I just turn on Task Manager and follow everything there. Main reason was to find out what is happening during those long pauses during install and found out OS disk runs at close to 100% at that time. If it wasn't an SSD it would last much longer.

Resmon is better for monitoring what is going on. At the 75% mark it shows the new winsxs being built.

f14tomcat · 27 Jul 2017

slicendice said:

There must be something wrongly coded in MPC-HC, since I can see a lot of reports on problem dating several years back.

Paint is working really great for me. I guess it's slow because I think they have moved to .NET assemblies instead of C++ code and the .NET Optimizer has not yet precompiled some of the code to native binaries. I think MS is making Paint ready for a move to the Windows Store.

Slightly OT, but you can force run it yourself....

On a computer that is running a 32-bit Windows operating system
%windir%\microsoft.net\framework\v4.0.30319\ngen.exe update /force /queue
On a computer that is running a 64-bit Windows operating system
%windir%\microsoft.net\framework64\v4.0.30319\ngen.exe update /force /queue