Announcing Windows 10 Insider Slow Build 16251 PC Insider

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  1. badrobot's Avatar
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    Win 10 Pro x64
       26 Jul 2017 #140

    Cortana can open an app by voice command...

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    But when you ask her to close it, she just gives you a web search result..

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  2. Posts : 188
    W10 Pro x64. W10 Pro x64 Skip Ahead Insider Preview
       26 Jul 2017 #141

    I've had 2 failures at 33% (after the first restart) with these messages in "installed update history"
    Both failures were related to 'SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION', the 1st flagged "ctoss2k.sys" and the 2nd "ha20x2k.sys"
    Both those files are present in C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\wdma_emu.inf_amd64_19c9375720103803\Win2K_XP\amd64 and in C:\WINDOWS\System32\drivers.
    I suspect those files are associated with the Creative sound card I have in my system. Creative are no longer updating drivers for that card :-(

    This is the first time I've seen those file flagged (I've had failures with past updates) but 16241 installed without any drama at the first attempt.
    sfc /scannow found and fixed some files when I ran it after the 2nd failure.

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    I did opt into (rs-prerelease.)
    I have never requested those two apps listed under "feature updates" nor do I see them in "Programs" or "Apps & Features"

    About to let it try for the 3rd update attempt. I did create an ISO, so if this 3rd attempt crashes I'll mount that and try an update from it.
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  3.    26 Jul 2017 #142

    all I know I came back up stairs and it was done on its own OMG
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  4. martyfelker's Avatar
    Posts : 1,631
    Triple Boot Windows 10 IP Build 17711/Windows Server 2019 IP Build 17692/Debian Unsttable
       26 Jul 2017 #143

    lmod said: View Post
    I've had 2 failures at 33% (after the first restart) with these messages in "installed update history"
    Both failures were related to 'SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION', the 1st flagged "ctoss2k.sys" and the 2nd "ha20x2k.sys"
    Both those files are present in C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\wdma_emu.inf_amd64_19c9375720103803\Win2K_XP\amd64 and in C:\WINDOWS\System32\drivers.
    I suspect those files are associated with the Creative sound card I have in my system. Creative are no longer updating drivers for that card :-(

    This is the first time I've seen those file flagged (I've had failures with past updates) but 16241 installed without any drama at the first attempt.
    sfc /scannow found and fixed some files when I ran it after the 2nd failure.

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    I did opt into (rs-prerelease.)
    I have never requested those two apps listed under "feature updates" nor do I see them in "Programs" or "Apps & Features"

    About to let it try for the 3rd update attempt. I did create an ISO, so if this 3rd attempt crashes I'll mount that and try an update from it.
    Ran setup.exe but it got to 55% complete (The screen is extremely bare bones but good looking). Your computer will restart momentarily but I cancel (CTRL-ALT-DEL - b ring up task manager). Now it says it is installing again. The error codes on Update History change every time I look at them. Now the error code is 0x80240034.
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  5. martyfelker's Avatar
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    Triple Boot Windows 10 IP Build 17711/Windows Server 2019 IP Build 17692/Debian Unsttable
       27 Jul 2017 #144

    I'm almost certain I will need to do a clean install of 16251 but in the meantime AMD just released this updated Crimson driver

    Introducing Radeon™ Software Crimson ReLive Edition 17.7.2

    and it's a peach. So I'm imaging the current state of 16241 with this driver now. Then I guess I'll run setup.exe from a mounted virtual DVD but choose to do a clean install. This will likely fail and I will have to boot off the DVD but it will be entertaining - for a geek!
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  6. blackroseMD1's Avatar
    Posts : 1,900
    Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview x64
       27 Jul 2017 #145

    Well, the weird issue with Grand Theft Auto V is still present in this build, which doesn't give me a lot of hope for the public release. Guess I'll do the "skip ahead" thing and hope for the best.
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  7.    27 Jul 2017 #146

    Kari said: View Post
    Interesting! I cannot explain that, would be interesting to get other AMD users to tell which folder they have.

    I can only say that I do 64 bit Pro, Education and Enterprise ISO images OR upgrades without creating ISO from each build in four languages (five if EN-GB and EN-US are counted as two), the folder is always the same regardless of the edition or language.

    I do Pro and Education ISO images also in 32 bit (only EN-GB), in these 32 editions the folder is also always the same.
    Too late now, I already made ISO and cleaned everything. What I do is to delete everything from C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download\ just before download starts and all that's left is current build. I copy full address and put in UUP to ISO, once it's all finished and asks for restart, I press enter and it makes ISO. Only after copying ISO to a safe place (backup disk) I let it install. I also used to make a bootable USB with new ISO and it helped when few builds ago it didn't want to install new build normally.
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  8.    27 Jul 2017 #147

    badrobot said: View Post
    Cortana can open an app by voice command...

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    I had to disconnect microphone because of TV running in the background. Every now and then, Cortana would pick something said on TV and reacted on it. Can't run the risk of somebody saying on TV, "Format hard disk"
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  9. Posts : 188
    W10 Pro x64. W10 Pro x64 Skip Ahead Insider Preview
       27 Jul 2017 #148

    lmod said: View Post

    About to let it try for the 3rd update attempt. I did create an ISO, so if this 3rd attempt crashes I'll mount that and try an update from it.
    And it failed again, this time claiming the fault was due to CTHWIUT.SYS (yes, the filename was rendered in all caps.) I haven't traced that file, yet

    I gave up on WU and installed from the iso I'd built, using Kari's tut "When Insider build ... " to do the upgrade. Apparently a few things have changed since the tut was written, but I found my way through without any crashes or failures.
    System protection was enabled, and Firefox was still my default browser. :) Those 2 items survived the update to 16241 also, but not in earlier updates.
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  10.    27 Jul 2017 #149

    With every build, less custom settings are removed but stupid arrows on desktop icons still show up and have to remove them myself.
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