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  1.    25 Jul 2017 #51
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    I have to agree with Kari's earlier post. I am staggered by number of people who are more concerned with cosmetic issues, than real features. What concerns me more is MS pander to these.

    Let's be honest - the Autumn Creators Update is full of cosmetic claptrap but I see very few truly innovative new features.
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  2.    25 Jul 2017 #52
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    @Brink Thanx for this!
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  3.    25 Jul 2017 #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by cereberus View Post
    I have to agree with Kari's earlier post. I am staggered by number of people who are more concerned with cosmetic issues, than real features. What concerns me more is MS pander to these.

    Let's be honest - the Autumn Creators Update is full of cosmetic claptrap but I see very few truly innovative new features.
    I have a different view. As I understand it, there has been a lot of improvements and fixes under the hood where the most critical part of the OS exists.

    I don't care that much about the eye candy stuff. I only care that the core OS functionality is efficient.

    If we really start thinking hard about what an OS is. It is meant to take user input, provide some output to screen, storage media or audio devices.Be a container for managing applications that are created for specific tasks. All applications an OS needs by default are the ones that helps manage OS itself and help it stay secure and the user information secure. The rest is optional and each and every user decides what is important to them.

    My definition of a hardcore OS (Windows) user is the one that takes advantage of what the OS has to offer and gets things done. A computer and it's OS is a tool after all. It is not a painting that we put on the wall, like so many think it should be (referring to all those who think eye candy on the desktop is first priority)

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  4.    25 Jul 2017 #54
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    @Kari You are a hardcore Windows user, no need to take comments personally or get insulted by them. ( Even if optimized networking performance is 10-20% slower on Windows than Linux.)
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  5.    25 Jul 2017 #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post

    Please tell me more.
    I don't think you'd listen.

    You seem to see things that aren't there, which I suppose does tick a few "hardcore" boxes.
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  6.    25 Jul 2017 #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sualdam View Post
    I don't think you'd listen.

    You seem to see things that aren't there, which I suppose does tick a few "hardcore" boxes.
    I only see exactly what was there. This is what you said:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sualdam View Post
    Anything Microsoft makes or does has been something "hardcore" desktop users have hated for the last two decades.
    Current release of Windows two decades ago was Windows 95, and according to you since that hardcore users have hated everything MS has done. Posting a statement like that you naturally have facts to support it, so it shouldn't be too difficult to you to tell for instance what was it in let's say Windows 95, 98 and 2000 that hardcore users hated. If you want to, you could expand your explanation to cover Windows XP, too, to tell what in XP was hated by hardcore users.

    Alternatively, of course, you could just admit that your statement is not true and you only posted it because you thought it would be taken at face value, as a fact, without anyone challenging it.

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  7.    25 Jul 2017 #57
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    Actually, dropping SYSKey is a major thing for MS. It's a tool used by scammers to lock out your machine after hitting a remote session.

    Removing it completely at least will stop some headaches.
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  8.    25 Jul 2017 #58

    Quote Originally Posted by bobjoe View Post
    Micro$oft doesn't care what you think. They want to advance their "UWP apps" agenda and will do whatever it takes to kill as many native Windows programs as possible in order to replace them with a "UWP" alternative.
    Which is exactly what they did with the new "Paint" app from the Windows Store.

    But this should hardly surprise anyone. I thought that in all eventuality, the Explorer portion of Windows would be replaced entirely with the Universal/Metro style. So we're just seeing this occur piece-meal.
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  9.    25 Jul 2017 #59
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    This is what you said
    I also said:

    Having said that, and no offence intended to anyone, I wouldn't class anyone who relies on Paint as a "hardcore" user.
    It is an opinion, and no different from the opinions of those who think rendering the name "Microsoft" with a $ sign is original.

    And I still don't think anyone who relies on Paint is automatically a "hardcore" user, anymore than someone who values the title "hardcore" is. As I say, just my opinion.
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  10.    25 Jul 2017 #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jody Thornton View Post
    I thought that in all eventuality, the Explorer portion of Windows would be replaced entirely with the Universal/Metro style. So we're just seeing this occur piece-meal.
    Do you know that this File explorer App already exists? Make a shortcut to
    C:\Windows\explorer.exe shell:AppsFolder\c5e2524a-ea46-4f67-841f-6a9465d9d515_cw5n1h2txyewy!App
    and you can see it. It seems good enough for phones perhaps [but even then I'd find an alternative].

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