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  1.    23 Aug 2017 #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trust_No1 View Post
    If someone purchased 10 over a year ago, there were other things that have been removed. I don't see how it is legally possible to cripple or change a product that was already acquired. I believe it won't stop here, they will continue to remove other features, you have no idea what will be left.
    .
    Microsoft promises to listen to what users actually want, before going ahead with their arbitrary bs decisions anyway...
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  2.    23 Aug 2017 #92
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    Windows 10 Pro IP Build 16299.19 (Branch: RS3 Release)

    I don't see any point in having full support for ReFS in Windows 10 Pro. On the other hand, in Windows 10 for Workstations and Windows Server 2016 it would be very useful for those who needs the capabilities. We don't need features like this in Windows Home or Pro, where the rest of the OS is crippled by so many other features. NTFS is more than good enough for the majority of users.

    ReFS in Windows Pro is like trying to drive a BIG truck on a narrow sidewalk. It just does not fit and you have to remove parts from the truck in order to make it fit. :-)
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  3.    23 Aug 2017 #93
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    Originally Posted by Trust_No1
    If someone purchased 10 over a year ago, there were other things that have been removed. I don't see how it is legally possible to cripple or change a product that was already acquired. I believe it won't stop here, they will continue to remove other features, you have no idea what will be left.

    How can it be illegal?

    All you have is a licence to use software supplied by MS. You do not own the software - only right to use it. You have not bought rights for it to have certain features.

    Things get added, things get removed - end of story!

    Don't like it - vote with your feet.
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  4.    23 Aug 2017 #94
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Why you have to stuck with NTFS ? Why not make ReFS available to everyone ? This is second time when Microsoft cut down some features from classical Windows Pro edition,in order to promote their newest "Editions",this is a dick move,and i'm not happy about what will happen with Windows 10 Pro in near future,if they continue to cut content from it,probably it will become the new Windows 10 Home Edition for Advanced Users.....,the only thing they need to do now,is to remove gpedit from Windows 10 Pro and is already an Home Edition....
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  5.    24 Aug 2017 #95
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    Here is a video I just watched, where it has a very good explanation why Microsoft(and other companies) nuke loved products:
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  6.    24 Aug 2017 #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff S View Post
    Here is a video I just watched, where it has a very good explanation why Microsoft(and other companies) nuke loved products:
    Sadly, we all get poorer, as our choices are narrowed to the corporate views of the major players.

    We could revolt, Windows Me-, Windows Vista-, Windows 8-, and Windows Phone- style and deprecate their Major vehicles instead, by not switching to them, but eventually they seem to get their way.

    Perhaps if we just use Windows 10 to run VMs of Windows 7 and XP, they'd get the message. Who's worse - pirates or despots?

    How do you draw a 1-pixel straight line from a-b in Paint 3D, anyway?
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  7.    26 Aug 2017 #97

    Hi there
    I'm disappointed that Refs will only be made available to Enterprise and Pro editions -- although other editions will still be able to access these file systems.

    It's been obvious for a long time that NTFS has serious limitations - and surely Ms should be really working on a replacement file system for ALL releases of Windows.

    As for those people who really need legacy apps that are being removed - e.g Paint -- why not simply keep the old release and run it as a virtual machine -- processors are so much more powerful these days the overhead of one or even two VM's on even a small laptop is minimal.

    I'm still running legacy stuff on a Windows XP VM machine -- so long as its isolated from the Internet and is running dedicated applications there's no security problems at all. Some of the older hardware my application uses is quite expensive to replace (25,000 USD or around) apart from the cost of a new software license. I use this as studio stuff for creating and cutting Custom Vinyl records.

    If the old hardware is working perfectly I see no reason to stop using it and pay a bunch of money to people who probably don't deserve it.

    BTW any news of the Workstation version apparently due to appear soon -- the original specs looked quite interesting.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  8.    26 Aug 2017 #98

    Paint will still be available from the Store and I'm sure someone will release a standalone version like they did with WLM and the old games.
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  9.    26 Aug 2017 #99

    Quote Originally Posted by slicendice View Post
    I don't see any point in having full support for ReFS in Windows 10 Pro. On the other hand, in Windows 10 for Workstations and Windows Server 2016 it would be very useful for those who needs the capabilities. We don't need features like this in Windows Home or Pro, where the rest of the OS is crippled by so many other features. NTFS is more than good enough for the majority of users.

    ReFS in Windows Pro is like trying to drive a BIG truck on a narrow sidewalk. It just does not fit and you have to remove parts from the truck in order to make it fit. :-)

    Hi there

    @slicendice

    disagree -- Refs is much better -- loads of people are using Windows as home servers (they really would be better off with Nas boxes or Linus but that's another issue).

    I can't play or view a load of multi-media from my NAS on Windows due to the rediculous 256 character limitation of a file name (including the directory) -- no problems though on a smart phone, other linux boxes, smart TV's / amazon firestick TV etc.

    (actually the file will play on windows but the file name shows up truncated in gibberish)

    It's not unreasonable to divide music files for example :

    Music
    Classical
    Renaissance
    a
    .....
    P
    Pretorius Hieronymus (1560 -1629) Germany

    then your tracks
    etc etc.

    as shown :

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    very easy to bang against the 256 char limit. I like having descriptive names for my music files

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  10.    26 Aug 2017 #100
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    About ReFS...who really needs it and for what purpose? What makes it more important than NTFS in YOUR case?

    I am not looking for ideas what someone could use it for, as I know how to Google, but I would rather like to know someones personal experience and requirements for this FS. What is it that you do right now on ReFS that you can not do on NTFS?

    Curious.
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