Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 16241 PC + 15230 Mobile Insider

f14tomcat said:

Being a wrong-side-ponder (:)), you may not know that means "Show me". Missouri state motto is 'The Show Me" state.

By definition, you must be the wrong-side-ponder surely - us Brits were on this side of the Pond for hundreds of years before you guys, excluding Native Americans of course .

Cbarnhorst said:

MVPs had to set up their own site to do that. They did a great job.

We are not MVP's the insider hub should have been left intact and not changed. Then we would know who we are dealing with. That is all I meant and wanted. It is not like MS does not have the resources to do it..:)

cereberus said:

By definition, you must be the wrong-side-ponder surely - us Brits were on this side of the Pond for hundreds of years before you guys, excluding Native Americans of course .

There is no right or wrong side all people are equal. Listen to John Lennon's" Imagine".:)

cereberus said:

By definition, you must be the wrong-side-ponder surely - us Brits were on this side of the Pond for hundreds of years before you guys, excluding Native Americans of course .

Yep, and it was y'all who came to the right side of the pond. :) Or is that the left side of the pond? I guess it's all in how you look at it.

And now I just met myself coming back. Sigh . . .

Wynona said:

Yep, and it was y'all who came to the right side of the pond. :) Or is that the left side of the pond? I guess it's all in how you look at it.

And now I just met myself coming back. Sigh . . .

+1 and +1 again.

lehnerus2000 said:

It's not only users.
The jokers at MS can't explain (or don't know) how Windows works either.

Yep, I have tried a couple of times to get Windows support from multiple official troubleshooting portals. The help I got was not even close to what I wanted fixed. The answers I got was not even related to the issue. I even explained what I had already done, and they just kept repeating the same answers.So we got nowhere.

Eventually I figured out the fix for my problem myself.

I expected to get help from a guru or something in that direction, but instead I got someone on the other end that that did not understand the problem domain and was even less skillful Windows user than myself. Not only that but the problem I had was caused at Microsoft end, I figured it out, but no one knew who to contact and fix the problem. So it seems these "gurus" don't even know how Microsoft as a company works or who to contact when access to some service modification is required.

slicendice said:

Yep, I have tried a couple of times to get Windows support from multiple official troubleshooting portals. The help I got was not even close to what I wanted fixed. The answers I got was not even related to the issue. I even explained what I had already done, and they just kept repeating the same answers.So we got nowhere.

Eventually I figured out the fix for my problem myself.

I expected to get help from a guru or something in that direction, but instead I got someone on the other end that that did not understand the problem domain and was even less skillful Windows user than myself. Not only that but the problem I had was caused at Microsoft end, I figured it out, but no one knew who to contact and fix the problem. So it seems these "gurus" don't even know how Microsoft as a company works or who to contact when access to some service modification is required.

I got a good support from regional and local MS Office. Regional is in Bulgaria but have Serbian speaking persons there.

CountMike said:

I got a good support from regional and local MS Office. Regional is in Bulgaria but have Serbian speaking persons there.

Lucky you! I think I was redirected somewhere where they did not even understand English properly. I got furious!

I guess I am used to get good support and problem diagnostics from my internet service provider. Usually it takes 5-10 minutes and whatever the problem is/was gets diagnosed and solved. At MS it took me over a week to get nowhere.:)