Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 16241 PC + 15230 Mobile Insider

24c said:

A new build is badly needed - :)

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Great edit!

Cheers

M4v3r1ck said:

Great edit!
Cheers

You got that right. We'll get 16251 @ 1PM EDT.

24c said:

You got that right. We'll get 16251 @ 1PM EDT.

That seems about right as it would be 7PM here when it usually starts.
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f14tomcat said:

Nothing at all to do with Insider, but I just saw this on Dona's Insider tweety thing. I've seen a lot of articles recently saying MS was gonna put Paint out to pasture. Apparently not. I'll just plop this here until it gets removed or complained about.

See this thread: MS Paint is here to stay in Windows 10 - Windows 10 Forums

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slicendice said:

I just skimmed through Feedback Hub and most feedback I see are complaints about not being able to do something, or that Windows does something that the users don't want. Seems most insider users have no idea how to use Windows at all. They are requesting fixes for stuff that is already there and has been there the past 20 years. All those users would know this if they had the slightest idea of how Windows works and what tools are available by default.

FUNNY!!!

Those of us who have been beta testing for many years are used to this . . . Until the beta of Windows 8, Microsoft always picked testers from all walks of life. Those who are gurus, those who are corporate users, those who are novices, and everyone in between, etc., etc. Their reasoning behind these choices was to understand the end user's problems, no matter what they were or were not.

With Windows 8, all of those who were novices, as well as a large segment of experienced Windows users from all walks of life were suddenly cut out of the testing arena . . . and look what a disaster Windows 8/8.1 turned out to be!

So, now Microsoft has gone back to its testing roots and you're seeing the results. You're probably right; I won't say most, but there are a lot of testers who aren't Windows 10 savvy; however, those are the tip of the iceberg. Their input is probably more valuable to Microsoft than mine. Why? Simply because Microsoft can see its user experience shortcomings and, hopefully, Windows can be made a little more transparent to the novice.

For instance, the Control Panel is in the process of being replaced by Settings. That in itself will be confusing to even the most savvy among us. Go to Control Panel and you'll see a lot of stuff missing. However, it's in Settings, but you gotta look for it! Add to that the many other changes made to Windows, and it's no wonder you think most Insiders don't have a clue.

From the start, I have tried my best to ignore the Control Panel and use Settings. Sometimes I succeed in what I'm trying to do/find, and sometimes I'm forced to go back to the Control Panel, which will be completely gone one of these days.

Bottom line is that what you're seeing isn't the complete makeup of those in the Insider Program.

f14tomcat said:

Nothing at all to do with Insider, but I just saw this on Dona's Insider tweety thing. I've seen a lot of articles recently saying MS was gonna put Paint out to pasture. Apparently not. I'll just plop this here until it gets removed or complained about.

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Thanks for the info, TC. I've seen several posts that say Paint is no longer included in Windows 10; however, just after a few (two, three?) Builds, there must have been enough feedback to make Microsoft realize the error of its ways. :)

I've had Paint ever since and didn't have to use the tut to restore it.

24c said:

A new build is badly needed - :)

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I don't believe in stupid! I do believe in lack of knowledge, though!

I also believe that those who call one with a lack of knowledge stupid, should turn around and take a good look at themselves!

24c said:

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Awwwwwwww, mannnnnnnnnnnnnnn!

Wynona said:

I don't believe in stupid! I do believe in lack of knowledge, though!

I also believe that those who call one with a lack of knowledge stupid, should turn around and take a good look at themselves!

It takes a women to put things in perspective....so easy to make cheap remarks at the expense of others.
Well stated Wyn.