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  1.    22 Jul 2015 #1

    Windows 10: RTM is dead (sorta) -- Long live Windows as a Service


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    Ever since news broke of Windows 10 reaching the RTM (Release to Manufacturing) milestone of development, my inbox has been full of people claiming that I’m wrong about build 10240 (the build released to Insiders) being the official Windows 10 RTM. Build 10240 is the RTM, but not in the traditional sense.

    Ever since news broke of Windows 10 reaching the RTM (Release to Manufacturing) milestone of development, my inbox has been full of people claiming that I’m wrong about build 10240 (the build released to Insiders) being the official Windows 10 RTM. Build 10240 is the RTM, but not in the traditional sense.


    For the last 30 years, when developing a new version of Windows, Microsoft eventually hits a point in which they are finished with development. This is known as the RTM milestone, a point in which Microsoft signs-off the version of Windows they have been working on and gives it out to OEMs and Partners. In the past, this was a very big and very physical affair. In 2002, when Windows XP hit RTM, it was sent to OEMs on a golden disk via helicopter, a freaking helicopter!


    These days, it’s a little less exciting. With Windows 7, Microsoft announced that it had hit RTM via a blog post on its official Windows Blog, which is no longer available. The same happened with Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 as well. Traditionally, Microsoft would hit RTM with a version of Windows months before the operating system was even scheduled for release.

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  2.    22 Jul 2015 #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by swarfega View Post
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    Ever since news broke of Windows 10 reaching the RTM (Release to Manufacturing) milestone of development, my inbox has been full of people claiming that I’m wrong about build 10240 (the build released to Insiders) being the official Windows 10 RTM. Build 10240 is the RTM, but not in the traditional sense.

    For the last 30 years, when developing a new version of Windows, Microsoft eventually hits a point in which they are finished with development. This is known as the RTM milestone, a point in which Microsoft signs-off the version of Windows they have been working on and gives it out to OEMs and Partners. In the past, this was a very big and very physical affair. In 2002, when Windows XP hit RTM, it was sent to OEMs on a golden disk via helicopter, a freaking helicopter!
    These days, it’s a little less exciting. With Windows 7, Microsoft announced that it had hit RTM via a blog post on its official Windows Blog, which is no longer available. The same happened with Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 as well. Traditionally, Microsoft would hit RTM with a version of Windows months before the operating system was even scheduled for release.

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    . . .again another confusing article or blog. . ."Service" what is meant by that word or term, and just because MS has stated they are finished with development doesn't mean 101240 is RTM. Maybe they are not going to release a RTM just the final. . .who knows; not me. . .
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  3.    22 Jul 2015 #3

    I know there's a bunch of confusion regarding official RTM ... but just to add to it...

    See Wzor's OEM release notes -= WZor.Net =- - Windows 10 Release Notes: RTM Build 10240.16384.150709-1700

    There's a little note regarding pre-release and a huge footnote regarding RTM...
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  4.    22 Jul 2015 #4

    See to me, this is how I always saw the situation. To me, "as a service" never had anything to do with pay structure; just the delivery method.. I thought of the product being upgraded the same way as Mac OS X. It has evolved slowly into a different animal since March 2000. But it will be delivered similarly to Google Chrome. Some seemed to think I was not aware of what I spoke of, but it seems to be materializing as I thought.
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  5.    22 Jul 2015 #5
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    No RTM for Windows 10, Microsoft Says


    Along the same lines...

    No RTM for Windows 10, Microsoft Says

    No this one will require a bit of mental gymnastics. But in response to a related question, Microsoft told me today that there is no “RTM,” “final” or “gold” version of Windows 10. And that I’m not alone in my confusion: much of the company still doesn’t get this either.
    Full article on Thurrott.com: https://www.thurrott.com/windows/win...microsoft-says
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  6.    22 Jul 2015 #6
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    I can't see the text on the OPs post on dark theme (TenForums general settings), I'm going to have to switch back to normal. Just something to keep in mind...
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  7.    22 Jul 2015 #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by fracking4oil View Post
    I can't see the text on the OPs post on dark theme (TenForums general settings), I'm going to have to switch back to normal. Just something to keep in mind...
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    No need to switch back, just highlight the text with a mouse
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  8.    22 Jul 2015 #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by groze View Post
    @fracking4oil
    No need to switch back, just highlight the text with a mouse
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  9.    23 Jul 2015 #9
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    Basically "Windows 10" will remain in beta stage forever and MS will continue to issue patches, fixes and new feature add-ons ( mandatory) via Windows update. I have an odd feeling that consumer editions of 10 will be buggy as it may be patched with untested updates. Enterprise edition will be more stable as it may only receive properly tested updates.
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  10.    23 Jul 2015 #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anshad Edavana View Post
    Basically "Windows 10" will remain in beta stage forever and MS will continue to issue patches, fixes and new feature add-ons ( mandatory) via Windows update. I have an odd feeling that consumer editions of 10 will be buggy as it may be patched with untested updates. Enterprise edition will be more stable as it may only receive properly tested updates.
    MS has stated that the Insider program will continue and the updates will be sent to the Insiders for testing before they are released to the public.

    Jim
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