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  1.    14 May 2017 #41
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    So much for those "Annoying" windows updates and security patches. Or insisting on using "beautiful" but obsolete and unsupported OS.
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  2.    14 May 2017 #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Would be interesting since the NSA was messing around with this stuff and let the cat out of the bag -- to get the NSA / US Federal Govt to pay compensation to people effected by this -- after all it was their tinkering that opened this loophole and they were unable to keep a lid on it. jimbo
    Agreed NSA were messing about with computer operating systems, but for reasons such as cyber warfare, and all that it entails regarding National Security......blame WikiLeaks for its release in the wild.
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  3.    14 May 2017 #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by dencal View Post
    Agreed NSA were messing about with computer operating systems, but for reasons such as cyber warfare, and all that it entails regarding National Security......blame WikiLeaks for its release in the wild.
    Road to ruin is paved with good intentions.
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  4.    14 May 2017 #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by swarfega View Post
    If you're on a fully patched Windows 10, then you are protected against this attack. Still, it doesn't hurt to have some protection. Confirmed by this article.
    Annoyingly, Windows Update has stopped working on this laptop. (Although it's still on Windows 10 so I think OK against this particular exploit but perhaps not other SMB attacks.)
    I have been manually downloading the main cumulative updates and applying, but it relies on me doing something manually which is never great (and may miss some other issues outside the cumulative updates).

    But the upshot is that the 'fully patched' aspect is hit-and-miss at the moment.

    I really need to clean install it, but it's one of 2 machines I have with a Broadcom 440x network device, so at present is incompatible with the 1703 Creators Update... I'm waiting/hoping for a fix from Microsoft.
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  5.    14 May 2017 #45

    yea I think this patch is one to go the extra mile for and manually download it.
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  6.    14 May 2017 #46

    Quote Originally Posted by dencal View Post
    Agreed NSA were messing about with computer operating systems, but for reasons such as cyber warfare, and all that it entails regarding National Security......blame WikiLeaks for its release in the wild.
    Hi Guys

    Can't blame Wikileaks --that's their PURPOSE although "Law of Unintended Consequencies" applies here -- surely it's the fault of the NSA for their own Security --How did it get to wikileaks.

    Pehaps should they rename the agency to NIA - National INsecurity Agency.

    Surely somebody in that agency (although my experience is that usually State employees don't usually have the greatest amount of "Forward thinking power") could have realized the results of what would happen if that type of research got out into the wild which it inevitably would sooner or later - and if it did how to contain it.

    Even in those places where people are still doing that evil research on biological weapons they ensure there's an antidote before continuing -- I'm not sure though how those people sleep at night working in that type of "Business".

    Anyway I only ever run an email client (Outlook) from a Windows VM hosted on a Linux machine - this VM has zero access from Windows to data drives on the Linux box so even if the VM were to get trashed I would just wipe it and start another one.

    But again one should always apply SECURITY FIXES whatever else you do and of course be VERY CAREFUL with Emails - I'm still amazed how casual people are with emails - some of them just open ANYTHING.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  7.    14 May 2017 #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi Guys

    Can't blame Wikileaks --that's their PURPOSE although "Law of Unintended Consequencies" applies here -- surely it's the fault of the NSA for their own Security --How did it get to wikileaks.

    Pehaps should they rename the agency to NIA - National INsecurity Agency.

    Surely somebody in that agency (although my experience is that usually State employees don't usually have the greatest amount of "Forward thinking power") could have realized the results of what would happen if that type of research got out into the wild which it inevitably would sooner or later - and if it did how to contain it.

    Even in those places where people are still doing that evil research on biological weapons they ensure there's an antidote before continuing -- I'm not sure though how those people sleep at night working in that type of "Business".

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Right, "Don't shoot messenger" applies here. Or even worse, don't blame somebody for getting raped !!
    The initiator of this whole mess (in this case NSA) should be only one to blame.
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  8.    14 May 2017 #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi Guys

    Can't blame Wikileaks --that's their PURPOSE although "Law of Unintended Consequencies" applies here -- surely it's the fault of the NSA for their own Security --How did it get to wikileaks.

    Pehaps should they rename the agency to NIA - National INsecurity Agency.

    Surely somebody in that agency (although my experience is that usually State employees don't usually have the greatest amount of "Forward thinking power") could have realized the results of what would happen if that type of research got out into the wild which it inevitably would sooner or later - and if it did how to contain it.

    Even in those places where people are still doing that evil research on biological weapons they ensure there's an antidote before continuing -- I'm not sure though how those people sleep at night working in that type of "Business".

    Anyway I only ever run an email client (Outlook) from a Windows VM hosted on a Linux machine - this VM has zero access from Windows to data drives on the Linux box so even if the VM were to get trashed I would just wipe it and start another one.

    But again one should always apply SECURITY FIXES whatever else you do and of course be VERY CAREFUL with Emails - I'm still amazed how casual people are with emails - some of them just open ANYTHING.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Actually, NSA stands for No Security Allowed; that is, from their perspective they don't want anyone to be secure from their meddling and looking about in other's business. One of these days it may be best to simply go "Brill."

    These days I certainly wouldn't want to run an old Windows OS, even if Windows 7 was prettier.
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  9.    14 May 2017 #49
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    With possible unending future Ransomware attacks and the resultant increasing search for patches, surely the time has come to go for the head of the snake.

    The strength of Ransomware attacks is based around the Bitcoin, an extremely difficult thing to locate, but Bitcoin without the ability to exchange for legitimate currency is worthless, so cut OFF that ability.

    If then the attackers demand legitimate currency, they can be more easily tracked down, especially now that the whole World has woken up to the extreme dangers posed to society by these miscreants.
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  10.    14 May 2017 #50
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    The problem that the NSA and other TLA's have is that the vast majority of Atrocities committed against the American people, in a long number of years, have been perpetrated by American citizens, so they have to concentrate their attention on the threat source

    You have to remember what it says in your own oath taken by new citizens and the armed services "... defense of the Constitution against enemies "foreign and domestic" ..."
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