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  1. Joined : Jul 2014
    Serbia
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    All kinds
       27 Jul 2015 #131

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    My HP Printers have the driver onboard, You can install it from the printer when you plug the USB cable in. It's stored in flash memory in the device. It's updateable too with a utility from HP, just like updating the firmware. I think I only ever used it once when I did the initial WIFI setup on my wireless Laserjet. Now all I do is turn it on and Windows finds it and installs the drivers in the background.
    Ha, that's good one.
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  2. Joined : Apr 2015
    California
    Posts : 362
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       27 Jul 2015 #132

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    My HP Printers have the driver onboard, You can install it from the printer when you plug the USB cable in. It's stored in flash memory in the device. It's updateable too with a utility from HP, just like updating the firmware. I think I only ever used it once when I did the initial WIFI setup on my wireless Laserjet. Now all I do is turn it on and Windows finds it and installs the drivers in the background.
    There is quite a story behind that driver that comes from the printer. Years ago, I use to work for that company that started in a little garage in Palo Alto. This story was going around the company. It seems one of the adversaries of the U.S. in the middle east had a nuclear lab equipped with HP printers. Well some organization (CIA?) managed to add a virus to the nuke labs printer firmware. The story was, the middle east nuke lab would clean the virus from their computers, but it kept coming back from somewhere (the printers), messing up their work.
    Last edited by Antilope; 27 Jul 2015 at 09:23.
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  3. Joined : Oct 2013
    North West Indianapolis, Indiana
    Posts : 446
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit and VM
       27 Jul 2015 #133

    I am sticking to my thoroughly stupid HP Deskjet 930, bought one new got two more as spares when they were replaced and ditched by a former employer. They are USB and parallel and I use USB.
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  4. Joined : Jan 2014
    Posts : 699
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       27 Jul 2015 #134

    I just gave printer driver as an example. Stuff like Zipdrive could do the same thing now tnat huge memory can be stuck on small chips. Especially if it is a Windows only hw then it would only need a 32 and 64 bit version on chip. Similar to boot strapping from BIOS disk support to loaded driver, have minimal necessary device support needed to copy the Windows or whatever off the device then get the sophisticated driver off the media in the device.
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  5.    27 Jul 2015 #135

    Indianatone said: View Post
    That is irony at its best
    Still you'll be able to make your on USB drives of 64 and 32 bit and with a little bit of fiddling Home and Pro.
    Rufus - Create bootable USB drives the easy way

    or Windows 7 tool:

    Windows USB/DVD Download Tool - Microsoft Store

    You probably know this but other users may fine the links useful.
    Thanks for the tip.
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  6. Joined : May 2015
    Posts : 38
    windows 7
       27 Jul 2015 #136

    what happens when the usb stick screws up and you have to format it you will lose the operating system on it.
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  7. Joined : Jan 2014
    Carencro, LA 70520
    Posts : 7,627
    Windows 10
       27 Jul 2015 #137

    musky said: View Post
    what happens when the usb stick screws up and you have to format it you will lose the operating system on it.
    The same thing that happens when you drop the DVD in the floor and step on it.LOL
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  8. Joined : Jan 2014
    Posts : 699
    Host W8.0 x64 Guest W10 x86
       27 Jul 2015 #138

    labeeman said: View Post
    The same thing that happens when you drop the DVD in the floor and step on it.LOL
    In which case you have to re-floor-mat it to recover your data.
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  9. Joined : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 8,194
    Windows 10 IoT
       27 Jul 2015 #139

    musky said: View Post
    what happens when the usb stick screws up and you have to format it you will lose the operating system on it.
    Copy the files to another location as a backup before that happens.
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  10. Joined : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 8,194
    Windows 10 IoT
       27 Jul 2015 #140

    swarfega said: View Post
    Thanks for the tip.
    The Windows 7 DVD download Tool was my go to tool at one time. If memory serves me though, it formats in NTFS, that doesn't work so well for UEFI installs on some devices. These days I just use diskpart, works for Windows 7, 8.1 and 10. The one drive is good for legacy and UEFI installs too.
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