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  1.    04 May 2017 #51
    Join Date : Feb 2016
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    Quote Originally Posted by dencal View Post
    I agree bug fixing should be a priority, but the problem is introducing new functions can interfere with past bug fixes, and so the problems mount ad infinitum....best to do as M$ appear to have planned, slowly feeding in new concepts.
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    ... seems all Edge and integrating existing PDF stuff... I would have thought the "Changes, improvements, and fixes for PC" takes precedence over the "What’ New in Build 16188 For PC"...

    Just a thought regarding where their priorities lie... Insiders that report problems are the ones that should be primarily addressed .. IMHO (as always)
    like you said in the last post.. not taking sides, just trying to understand. I think we are, more or less, guessing about development paths of build (sub)branches. Think we could see a pattern with new features introduction and bug fixes in AU and CU.

    I'm getting impression MS is doing like old gold miners.. Get a bunch of new material and then clearing it slowly. in February I didn't believe that MS would deliver AU in March. So many old and new bugs in build twice a week.. I last two weeks they just crushed most of the bugs. And AU was ready in time (more or less ).

    We are in the timeframe of introducing some new features right now, and I'm kind of cool with this. There will be bugs and changes, but it's Preview thing.

    Just my view
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  2.    04 May 2017 #52

    Quote Originally Posted by waltc View Post
    Yes, at some point Microsoft is going to have to freeze "feature creep" and concentrate on extant bugs or else it's simply going to worsen with time, imo. No question about it.
    I agree... just dunno why new features are so important... rather than fixes (unless we are so self-absorbed)
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  3.    04 May 2017 #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by DooGie View Post
    I agree totally Superfly. an example is when they introduced Paint 3D. I'm sure that 99% of users will never bother with it. Give me a perfectly working OS that I can run 3rd party apps of my choice on and I'm a happy Windows user :)
    I was sort of amazed @ Paint 3d, actually, to discover that it did not replicate standard paint's feature set and simply add the "3d" toy set of features to it. I put the old paint right back in--its highest feature of use to me is when I do screen shots and save them to image files. Regular paint has a couple more handy features, too, which means I don't have to whip out a full-blown image processor every time I want to do something simple, etc. But Paint 3d is a novelty/toy and certainly no replacement! Surprising. But hey...I once worked on a credit-card project (putting together an e-commerce engine for an online store) with a bunch of programmers more skilled than I in certain aspects of what needed to be done--and I was surprised by how little they actually knew about certain things relative to what I considered "common knowledge" in fully using Windows...;) (Practical cause-effect stuff.) They were great with the coding--but not so hot with the command line, if you know what I mean...;) It's not a criticism by any means--just an observation.
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  4.    04 May 2017 #54
    Join Date : Nov 2015
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    WINDOWS 10 Pro x64 builds 17040.1000, 16299.64

    Quote Originally Posted by moorhen2 View Post
    Looks like Outlook is still broken in this build, still locking up when trying to send and recieve emails.
    I think that's on the list of known issues:
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  5.    04 May 2017 #55
    Join Date : Oct 2013
    A Finnish expat in Germany
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by waltc View Post
    I've wondered why folks just don't use outlook.com through their choice of browser as opposed to the Outlook email application...?
    I use Outlook desktop app because it allows me to use my multiple email accounts from one application. I use actively about half a dozen Microsoft account emails, a few @MyOwnDomains addresses, two Gmail and so on. Turning your question around, I'm wondering why on earth should I sign in to all these accounts separately using a browser when it's so easy and effortless to manage and access all of them centrally using Outlook desktop app's intuitive and clear GUI, not to mention getting automatically notified about new messages, calendar reminders and such without a need to keep multiple browsers open staying signed in to all accounts.

    As Outlook is more a personal information manager than a simple email client, it also integrates my tasks lists, calendars and contacts from various accounts.
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  6.    04 May 2017 #56
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    W10 Pro + W10 Preview

    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    I use Outlook desktop app because it allows me to use my multiple email accounts from one application. I use actively about half a dozen Microsoft account emails, a few @MyOwnDomains addresses, two Gmail and so on. Turning your question around, I'm wondering why on earth should I sign in all these accounts separately when it's so easy to manage and access all of them centrally using Outlook desktop app's intuitive and clear GUI.

    As Outlook is more a personal information manager than a simple email client, it also integrates my tasks lists, calendars and contacts from various accounts.
    Absolutely spot on..........so easy to set up and so convenient.
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  7.    04 May 2017 #57
    Join Date : Mar 2017
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    I do not understand why this is being Called The Creatures Update and build 15063.13-250 were called the Creators Update. There are issues in this build that were reported and are still not fixed. I cannot change the Lock screen or get anywhere near the setting as the desktop returns after a flash. I cannot use sleep as when I try to wake it up it restarts and then I get a msg from MS,,,and so forth. It seems to me that as these builds progress the quality is deteriorated. Oh and it only took me 2 1/2 hours to install. after 3 GSOD,s and 4 failures. End of rant.
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  8.    04 May 2017 #58
    Join Date : Jan 2015
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    Windows 10 and windows insider

    Quote Originally Posted by Josey Wales View Post
    I do not understand why this is being Called The Creatures Update and build 15063.13-250 were called the Creators Update. There are issues in this build that were reported and are still not fixed. I cannot change the Lock screen or get anywhere near the setting as the desktop returns after a flash. I cannot use sleep as when I try to wake it up it restarts and then I get a msg from MS,,,and so forth. It seems to me that as these builds progress the quality is deteriorated. Oh and it only took me 2 1/2 hours to install. after 3 GSOD,s and 4 failures. End of rant.
    Josey, it is ok to rant. I hope you reported these issues -- even if you reported them in previous builds. MS needs to know these are still problems that are not resolved.
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  9.    04 May 2017 #59
    Join Date : Nov 2014
    Floyd, VA
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    Triple Boot Windows 10 IP Build 17025/Windows Server 2016/Debian Sid

    Installed on the physical machine smoothly. I am now creating a Hyper-V VM using the Generation 2 style (never successfully did this before with Hyper-V) The physical machine itself has a Gigabyte Mobo which is only capable of the "Hybrid UEFI". don't use it but only the SSD is on a MBR partition - all other drives are GPT. Can see a reason to change from MBR to GPT yet. I'm interested as to whether the time sync problem arises - I'll know fairly soon. Even if it works with Hyper-V no guarantee it will work with VMware or Virtualbox.
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  10.    04 May 2017 #60
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Arnold, MD
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    Triple boot - Win 10 Pro, Win 10 Pro Insider (2) - (and a sprinkling of VMs)

    One area seems to be stable......the list of known issues in this build.
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