Windows 10: Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 16188 PC and 15210 Mobile Insider

Wynona said:

There are so many ways to get things going in Windows 10, that I guess I'm flummoxed, Magilla. Have you tried any of the four options?

If you have, then I guess your best bet would be a clean install.

Thanks for your suggestions and help.

magilla said:

My only problem is that I installed the insider build and updated it to current. But, My boot menu is not present, so I can't select one or the other drives to boot. Don't understand - but this is UEFI computer so I think that may be the issue. I am not familiar with UEFI so I am going to have to get someone to help me. It keeps booting to the Windows Creators drive and doesn't give me a menu to select an alternate system/drive.

Wynona said:

See if this will help, Magilla.

Choose Default Operating System to Run at Startup in Windows 10 Windows 10 Installation Upgrade Tutorials

I think this is the one that helped me get out of your situation.

magilla said:

But I don't have a menu. And msconfig only lists one system. Never had this problem with legacy bios

Wynona said:

There are so many ways to get things going in Windows 10, that I guess I'm flummoxed, Magilla. Have you tried any of the four options?

If you have, then I guess your best bet would be a clean install.

@magilla

The Boot Records appear to be messed up and BCDDATA does not include an entry for the Insider, for whatever reason. When there is only one OS "seen" by Boot Manager, you will not get a boot menu. 3 solutions I can offer that would not require a clean install (in increasing order of complexity):

1. Get Macrium Reflect (should already be using this, IMO), make a Rescue thumb or DVD, boot from it and choose "Fix Boot Records".

2. Get EasyBCD, and carefully add the correct partition that is missing to the BCDDATA, and choose use "Metro/Modern Boot Menu".

3. Manually using CMD prompt and command bcdedit, enter all the necessary data exactly as it needs to be, making sure everything points correctly to the proper partitions and all spelling is perfect.


I prefer the first.

TC

f14tomcat said:

@magilla

The Boot Records appear to be messed up and BCDDATA does not include an entry for the Insider, for whatever reason. When there is only one OS "seen" by Boot Manager, you will not get a boot menu. 3 solutions I can offer that would not require a clean install (in increasing order of complexity):

1. Get Macrium Reflect (should already be using this, IMO), make a Rescue thumb or DVD, boot from it and choose "Fix Boot Records".

2. Get EasyBCD, and carefully add the correct partition that is missing to the BCDDATA, and choose use "Metro/Modern Boot Menu".

3. Manually using CMD prompt and command bcdedit, enter all the necessary data exactly as it needs to be, making sure everything points correctly to the proper partitions and all spelling is perfect.


I prefer the first.

TC

@tomcat, Thanks for your suggestions. I do have Macrium purchased version. So that will probably be the easiest.

@ Tomcat:
I did boot repair with Macrium 7.
Before this, I was told by someone else to add this command to boot

bcdboot D:\Windows /d /addlast

The problem now is at each boot, I see this:
>>Checking Media Presence . . . .
>>Media Present . . .
>>Start PXE over IPv4
then another Asus mobo boot before I get to the boot menu.

The time to get from one boot screen to alternate boot is 4 minutes now.

magilla said:

@ Tomcat:
I did boot repair with Macrium 7.
Before this, I was told by someone else to add this command to boot

bcdboot D:\Windows /d /addlast

The problem now is at each boot, I see this:
>>Checking Media Presence . . . .
>>Media Present . . .
>>Start PXE over IPv4
then another Asus mobo boot before I get to the boot menu.

I have no idea what that is. Looks like it's trying to boot or do something () over the internet. Better find that "someone" and ask how to deal with it, or maybe somebody else knows.

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Just a thought......check your bios settings and make sure the HDD/SSD is first. Might be listed as "Boot Manager", followed by the ipv4 and ipv6.

Thanks@Tomcat. This is Uefi bios and has become my new dream system from he**! Give me old fashioned bios. Yes the boot order is internet first. I am looking at as us mobo manual to see how to change order. Only God and builder knows why set up that way, and why boot drive is second in system and not first.

magilla said:

Thanks@Tomcat. This is Uefi bios and has become my new dream system from he**! Give me old fashioned bios. Yes the boot order is internet first. I am looking at as us mobo manual to see how to change order. Only God and builder knows why set up that way, and why boot drive is second in system and not first.

I'm fan of legacy BIOS too, this is my first UEFI I owned. There are settings for things I never even heard of and I'm playing and working on/with PCs since '80s. The thing is, UEFI has more stuff than it would work with legacy BIOS.

magilla said:

Thanks@Tomcat. This is Uefi bios and has become my new dream system from he**! Give me old fashioned bios. Yes the boot order is internet first. I am looking at as us mobo manual to see how to change order. Only God and builder knows why set up that way, and why boot drive is second in system and not first.

It's not hard to change. Just check.

CountMike said:

I'm fan of legacy BIOS too, this is my first UEFI I owned. There are settings for things I never even heard of and I'm playing and working on/with PCs since '80s. The thing is, UEFI has more stuff than it would work with legacy BIOS.

@count - Yes, I've been with Legacy BIOS most of my life - since early 80's also. Knew my way around with legacy, but - even though I have a portable that is UEFI bios, I do not dual boot it. So haven't had problems with it. This computer has ASUS mobo, which I'm not familiar with. I have to do some reading in motherboard manual to see what is what.

f14tomcat said:

It's not hard to change. Just check.

@tomcat, thanks for your vote of confidence. I have some reading to do first -- maybe I'll just restore my original disk remove the insider install and leave the second disk empty --- but seems such a shame. I had this system build to my specs with two 1 GB SSD drives just so I could have another system with Insider builds on it.