Windows 10: Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 16184 PC and 15208 Mobile Insider

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  1.    04 May 2017 #270

    Wynona said: View Post
    I generally leave both printers on all the time. That way everything seems to be intact when I want to use one.

    I GOT RID OF THE NOTICE FOR MY INKJET!

    Since I was restarting anyway, I broke down and gave it the Yellow cartridge it was whining for and it has now quit begging! I have never had this kind of notification from a printer before! Sure, when I started to print, and it needed ink, it would notify me, but not when I wasn't even remotely thinking about printing! Sheesh!
    What a crybaby of a printer !! Shedding ink at every opportunity.
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       04 May 2017 #271

    CountMike said: View Post
    What a crybaby of a printer !! Shedding ink at every opportunity.
    I'm not so sure it's the printer itself, Count. Until I installed Build 16184, it never asked for ink until it needed it to print something. I don't think it's the drivers either, because when I uninstalled it, then reinstalled it, I used the same driver package as the last time I installed it.

    I think somehow Windows got itself confused.
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       04 May 2017 #272

    CountMike said: View Post
    What a crybaby of a printer !! Shedding ink at every opportunity.


    Wynona said: View Post
    I'm not so sure it's the printer itself, Count. Until I installed Build 16184, it never asked for ink until it needed it to print something. I don't think it's the drivers either, because when I uninstalled it, then reinstalled it, I used the same driver package as the last time I installed it.

    I think somehow Windows got itself confused.
    Most likely it's Windows Action Center's notifications reacting to the printer driver. Notifications is getting quite sophisticated. e.g. I have a drive utility that upon boot notifies that it's up and running. On my 8.1 it's a pop out balloon from the Taskbar's system tray aka notification area. In my 10 it comes via Action Center's notifications upon boot, which makes sense.

    I bet that yellow ink cartridge isn't empty either?
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  4.    04 May 2017 #273

    HippsieGypsie said: View Post




    Most likely it's Windows Action Center's notifications reacting to the printer driver. Notifications is getting quite sophisticated. e.g. I have a drive utility that upon boot notifies that it's up and running. On my 8.1 it's a pop out balloon from the Taskbar's system tray aka notification area. In my 10 it comes via Action Center's notifications upon boot, which makes sense.

    I bet that yellow ink cartridge isn't empty either?
    Them stupid sensors on cartridges, they put then on so you can't fill them up but have to buy new ones. With cheaper inkjets set of cartridges can cost more than whole printer. There are devices that can reset either cartridge or printer so you can refill them yourself. In addition factory cartridges are not filled as far as you can do it yourself. Here we have services that get over those restrictions and refill them at fraction of cost of new ones. That could be done 10 times or more if cartridge has print head on it and even more times if it's just a reservoir and print head is on printer carriage. There are also kits that let you connect cartridges with external tanks by thin hoses and are easy to refill while they hold much more ink than normal ones.
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       04 May 2017 #274

    Wynona said: View Post
    I saw that, Marty. Sounds good when it happens. However, Jason said issues wouldn't be fixed in whichever Build they release.
    So most of us can expect non-working MS Outlook 2016 once again ????
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       04 May 2017 #275

    CountMike said: View Post
    Them stupid sensors on cartridges, they put then on so you can't fill them up but have to buy new ones. With cheaper inkjets set of cartridges can cost more than whole printer. There are devices that can reset either cartridge or printer so you can refill them yourself. In addition factory cartridges are not filled as far as you can do it yourself. Here we have services that get over those restrictions and refill them at fraction of cost of new ones. That could be done 10 times or more if cartridge has print head on it and even more times if it's just a reservoir and print head is on printer carriage. There are also kits that let you connect cartridges with external tanks by thin hoses and are easy to refill while they hold much more ink than normal ones.
    I hear you, Count. Forcing us to buy new cartridges of their make. Why? Ink has one of the most inflated prices of any material. As much as $8,000/gal according to the article below. They probably make more money off supplies than they do the printers themselves.

    This is a 2007 article.

    A Boston man has filed a class-action lawsuit accusing hardware maker HP and office supply retailer Staples of colluding to inflate the price of printer ink cartridges in violation of federal antitrust law. According to the suit, HP allegedly paid Staples $100 million to refrain from selling inexpensive third-party ink cartridges, although the suit doesn't make it clear how plaintiff Ranjit Bedi arrived at that figure.

    For most printer companies, ink is the bread and butter of their business. The price of ink for HP ink-jet printers can be as much as $8,000 per gallon, a figure that makes gas-pump price gouging look tame. HP is currently the dominant company in the printing market, and a considerable portion of the company's profits come from ink.
    More here: $8,000-per-gallon printer ink leads to antitrust lawsuit | Ars Technica

    I'm wondering if the cartridge sensor numbers are recorded in the driver or the Registry.....
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       04 May 2017 #276

    wen said: View Post
    So most of us can expect non-working MS Outlook 2016 once again ????
    That I don't know, Wen, since the flaws weren't identified.
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       04 May 2017 #277

    HippsieGypsie said: View Post




    Most likely it's Windows Action Center's notifications reacting to the printer driver. Notifications is getting quite sophisticated. e.g. I have a drive utility that upon boot notifies that it's up and running. On my 8.1 it's a pop out balloon from the Taskbar's system tray aka notification area. In my 10 it comes via Action Center's notifications upon boot, which makes sense.

    I bet that yellow ink cartridge isn't empty either?
    Well, it's as empty as it can get, Hippsie. I start getting warnings about the time it's half empty until it just won't print any more.
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       04 May 2017 #278

    HippsieGypsie said: View Post
    I hear you, Count. Forcing us to buy new cartridges of their make. Why? Ink has one of the most inflated prices of any material. As much as $8,000/gal according to the article below. They probably make more money off supplies than they do the printers themselves.

    This is a 2007 article.

    More here: $8,000-per-gallon printer ink leads to antitrust lawsuit | Ars Technica

    I'm wondering if the cartridge sensor numbers are recorded in the driver or the Registry.....
    Hmmm, something to think about . . . wonder where I'd start to find it?
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  •    04 May 2017 #279

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