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  1.    13 Aug 2015 #2351
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    Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 16281

    Stick a fork in me . . . I'm done.

    Seems to me we're talking apples and bananas; never the twain shall meet . . . And I don't like arguing for the sake of arguing and this has turned into nothing but an argument.

    Later, Alpha, Count, etc.
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  2.    13 Aug 2015 #2352
    Join Date : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    Windows 10 IoT

    Quote Originally Posted by nt62 View Post
    OK, just wasn't expecting the free trial to be that version? I'm running the non LTSB version and have all the Apps and other features pro has. Other than the word Enterprise here and there, it looks and works no different than Pro.
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  3.    13 Aug 2015 #2353
    Join Date : Jul 2014
    Serbia
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    W10 Insider + Linux

    Quote Originally Posted by Wynona View Post
    Stick a fork in me . . . I'm done.

    Seems to me we're talking apples and bananas; never the twain shall meet . . . And I don't like arguing for the sake of arguing and this has turned into nothing but an argument.

    Later, Alpha, Count, etc.
    I often mix them in my fruit salad, stick around, may be interesting.
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  4.    13 Aug 2015 #2354
    Join Date : Nov 2013
    Chicagoland
    Posts : 32,413
    Dual boot Windows 10 Pro x 64 CU build 15063 & Insider Build 16273

    I had to look that LTSB up. Never heard of it before. Interesting how MS is taking care of business. (pun intended)

    Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB cant choose whether to download or install Windows Updates?
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  5.    13 Aug 2015 #2355
    Join Date : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    Windows 10 IoT

    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    I had to look that LTSB up. Never heard of it before. Interesting how MS is taking care of business. (pun intended)

    Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB cant choose whether to download or install Windows Updates?
    I was thinking or trying that version but didn't and opted for the regular Enterprise version. I'm glad I did now. I want to run Apps on it. Even with the LTSB version, I think you still need access to "Windows update for Business" to control what updates you get and don't get. I don't have any more control over upgrades or updates in Enterprise than I do on Pro. My MSDN version gets its updates through Windows update just like everybody else. I don't have access to a corporate network to change it. I'm retired.
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  6.    13 Aug 2015 #2356
    Join Date : Jan 2015
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    w7 pro - ( Server 2012 build 9200 ) - Server 2016 - Mint 18.2

    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    I had to look that LTSB up. Never heard of it before. Interesting how MS is taking care of business. (pun intended)

    Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB cant choose whether to download or install Windows Updates?
    This is an incorrect title. You CAN disable ALL updates permanently with the group policy editor.
    Unless you manually choose to do so, windows update can be disabled.

    Proof > I have tested this. Have NOT received ANY updates.
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  7.    13 Aug 2015 #2357
    Join Date : Nov 2013
    Chicagoland
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    Dual boot Windows 10 Pro x 64 CU build 15063 & Insider Build 16273

    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    I was thinking or trying that version but didn't and opted for the regular Enterprise version. I'm glad I did now. I want to run Apps on it. Even with the LTSB version, I think you still need access to "Windows update for Business" to control what updates you get and don't get. I don't have any more control over upgrades or updates in Enterprise than I do on Pro. My MSDN version gets its updates through Windows update just like everybody else. I don't have access to a corporate network to change it. I'm retired.
    Thanks for that, Alpha. I assume the LTSB edition is a special licensed version to be able to access Windows update for Business then, yes?

    I can see where an edition that doesn't install extra apps would be beneficial so far as install time and employees toying around on company time.

    Side loading of specifically-developed apps catered to a specific type business for use I thought to be an ingenious idea. I wonder how well that's catching on?
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  8.    13 Aug 2015 #2358
    Join Date : Oct 2013
    A Finnish expat in Germany
    Posts : 12,661
    Windows 10 Pro

    The LTSB version is meant to be used in corporate environments where regular upgrades could cause issues and where the LOB (line of business) apps are sideloaded to Windows instead of installing apps from the Windows Store. This way the employer can fully decide which apps are and can be installed, how Windows will be serviced and so on.

    From the normal private user's point of view the LTSB version is practical only if running a trial version does not cause any issues and if the services / apps related to Microsoft account are not needed. There's nothing special in LTSB version apart it being a quite barebone; every user can test it for free for 90 days.

    Download Windows 10 Enterprise or Enterprise LTSB ISO image for a 90 day free trial: Windows 10 Enterprise | TechNet Evaluation Center
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  9.    13 Aug 2015 #2359
    Join Date : Jan 2015
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    w7 pro - ( Server 2012 build 9200 ) - Server 2016 - Mint 18.2

    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    I assume the LTSB edition is a special licensed version to be able to access Windows update for Business then, yes?
    NO. Long Term Servicing Branch

    It is designed to be a more stable version.

    Updates can be blocked.
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  10.    13 Aug 2015 #2360

    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    But runs, and runs good too. I'm sure MS is acutely aware about business needs and how to address updates so they do not upset anything. I'm also sure that MS doesn't use Linux or Apple as their business system.
    Hi there

    Ms do have a LOT of Linux Servers --supplied by RED HAT (among others) -- there's no reason for Ms to avoid using Linux for example as servers to supply VDI (Virtual Desktop infrastructure) or loads of other things.

    How many ISP's for example supply their Broadband on 100% Windows platforms.

    This doesn't in any way suggest that Windows is not fit for purpose.

    At Home for example I switch on the lights --I don't care HOW or WHO supplies the power (well so long as it's done reasonably environmentally friendly and cheaply). The lightbulb works so long as power is supplied.

    Same with Ms -- the chances are your Windows download is done by Linux servers. NOTE: This is NOT an argument over the relative merits of Windows vs Linux -- simply that Linux is used as a perfectly acceptable delivery tool even by Ms. There's also a HUGE difference in employing Servers for massive companies and running simple home desktop OS'es on small systems.

    BTW Ms also uses SAP for a lot of their accounting / manufacturing etc. - It works and there's also no reason for them not to use a huge reliable ERP / CRM system used by 100,000's of companies world wide. That doesn't mean to say that Ms can't supply smaller scale successful software for small business which have similar needs either.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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