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  1.    26 Jul 2015 #1241
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 Build 17046

    Quote Originally Posted by sgage View Post
    Groze, I do not claim to have perfect knowledge of the situation - all I'm saying is that MS has been very careful throughout to say that the upgraded license is good for the life of the device. That implies to me that it is not transferable. Believe me, I would be delighted to be proved wrong!
    One good question to ask:
    Once I upgraded my retail 7/8.1 license to 10. What condition of my retail 7/8.1 will be? Expired? If not I can always reinstall back to my licensed 7/8.1 and transfer it to a new machine then upgrade it to 10 within the 12 months! Right?
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  2.    26 Jul 2015 #1242
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    Serbia
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    W10 Insider + Linux

    Avast used to issue new signatures 5 or more times a day. Updates to Defender are a good sign, other security updates are attempts to plug the sieve all OSes are.
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  3.    26 Jul 2015 #1243
    Join Date : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    Windows 10 IoT

    Quote Originally Posted by groze View Post
    If I can't transfers windows 10 upgraded from my windows 7 retail and it doesn't retain the transferable right. I might as well just upgrade the windows 7 oem version and keep windows 7 retail in another partition instead of the other way around.



    This seems to say it differently.

    I currently use Windows 8.1 retail version and am very - Microsoft Community




    My upgrade from Windows 7 OEM shows as Windows 10 Pro Retail. Doesn't really surprise me though. If you upgraded an OEM install and it stayed OEM, that would normally mean you call the OEM for tech support. Why would they help you if you did a free upgrade to an OS their device never shipped with? Makes more sense for Microsoft to assume responsibly for any issues as a result of the free upgrade, thus your Windows 10 becomes Retail and you call Microsoft for tech support.
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  4.    26 Jul 2015 #1244
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    Serbia
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    W10 Insider + Linux

    Quote Originally Posted by jyusa View Post
    One good question to ask:
    Once I upgraded my retail 7/8.1 licenses to 10. What condition of my retail 7/8.1 will be? Expired? If not I can always reinstall back to my licensed 7/8.1 and transfer it to a new machine then upgrade it to 10 within the 12 months! Right?
    The more I hear (read) about it, answer to it looks more like "Heaven only knows and MS is not saying" !!
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  5.    26 Jul 2015 #1245
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    Windows 8.1, Win10Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by jyusa View Post
    One good question to ask:
    Once I upgraded my retail 7/8.1 licenses to 10. What condition of my retail 7/8.1 will be? Expired? If not I can always reinstall back to my licensed 7/8.1 and transfer it to a new machine then upgrade it to 10 within the 12 months! Right?
    This has been answered numerous times here -- but I don't have the thread links handy. Basically, Win10 "reuses" the existing Win 7/8/8.1 license for the upgrade. This means that "legally", you are not allowed to continue to use that instance of Win 7/8/8.1 anymore. Whether or not it is technically possible, no one knows at this point.

    But, if you then "migrated" that instance of Win 7/8/8.1 to a different machine, you would have two machines running with the same license -- again, not legal.
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  6.    26 Jul 2015 #1246
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    and you call Microsoft for tech support.
    And you hang on the phone for hours only to be told to restart your computer.
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  7.    26 Jul 2015 #1247
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    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    Windows 10 IoT

    Quote Originally Posted by jyusa View Post
    One good question to ask:
    Once I upgraded my retail 7/8.1 license to 10. What condition of my retail 7/8.1 will be? Expired? If not I can always reinstall back to my licensed 7/8.1 and transfer it to a new machine then upgrade it to 10 within the 12 months! Right?
    In theory yes. They may block a free upgrade if they detect the same Retail product code being used more than once. It would be within their rights, IMHO.
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  8.    26 Jul 2015 #1248
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 Build 17046

    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    The more I hear (read) about it, answer to it looks more like "Heaven only knows and MS is not saying" !!
    exactly!!!
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  9.    26 Jul 2015 #1249
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    Windows 10 Pro 64bit; Windows 10 TP; KDE Neon

    Quote Originally Posted by Slartybart View Post
    I'm not always connected so I usually only get one or two defender updates.

    What is more disconcerting is the frequency of security updates. Some might see this as a good thang, that MS is on top of the holes. The other side of the coin is that the release is a sieve the same way XP had loose security.

    I'm glad that MS is finding the breaches and patching the holes, but today is 26 July. Is this the cadence we should expect with a production release?

    I know one of the patches is for Flash, but that was discovered a week or two ago. Not very Agile.
    I hear you...
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  10.    26 Jul 2015 #1250
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 Build 17046

    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    And you hang on the phone for hours only to be told to restart your computer.
    LOL!!!
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