Windows 10: How SSDs work and what you can do to make yours last longer

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  1.    21 Apr 2017 #30

    pparks1 said: View Post
    Yeah, my oldest SSD is an Intel X-25M and it's still working. It's about 8 years old. Too bad it's only 80GB and that just isn't big enough to do much with these days.
    I am actually using my old ssd for the temporary files - as Navy LCDR says no point in moving them from an ssd to hdd but ssd to ssd is reasonable. The main reason I do this is to simply maximise capacity on new SSD more than to prolong its life). I could not detect any loss of performance doing this even though older ssd is slower than new one.
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  2.    21 Apr 2017 #31

    essenbe said: View Post
    Yea, mine's 80 GB too. For what I paid for 80GB, I could come close to buying a 1 TB SSD now.
    Yeah, me too. I paid around $300 for the 80GB when i bought it. I bought it mostly as a learning/nerd experience. So many didn't see much past the "it boots Windows faster" advantage, and they looked at their HDD's and said (it boots Windows in only about 15 seconds anyway, so why does it need to be faster". I felt more or less the same, but once I got the SSD, things made sense. Installing the OS was much faster, launching games was hugely improved, malware scans were super fast, Windows updates would fly. I then became an SSD evangelist and recommended them to everyone.
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  3.    21 Apr 2017 #32

    cereberus said: View Post
    I am actually using my old ssd for the temporary files - as Navy LCDR says no point in moving them from an ssd to hdd but ssd to ssd is reasonable. The main reason I do this is to simply maximise capacity on new SSD more than to prolong its life). I could not detect any loss of performance doing this even though older ssd is slower than new one.
    I just relegated my 80GB to testing new OS installs when I want to play on something outside of a VM. So, it's a lab drive now basically.
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  4.    21 Apr 2017 #33

    cereberus said: View Post
    Five year old cheapo generic brand ssd used heavily every day - 3℅ loss in five years. Even if I decided to stop using it when it got to say 21℅ loss, that would take another 30 years. I would fully expect that drive to outlast me - LOL.

    Of course above is bs really as I would long since have upgraded ssd - hell SATA will probably be a footnote in the dustbin of history in 30 years time.
    That's another reason not to worry about SSD lifespan; we don't know what we may be using, or saving to buy, in even another 4-5 years. What comes out of R&D labs during that time may blow away even the best of what we can buy now.
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       21 Apr 2017 #34

    But aren't SSDs supposed to have longer life span compared to conventional hard drives? From the very beginnning we were told that SSDs are less likely to die faster because it has no moving parts. Or is that just a marketing BS?
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  6.    21 Apr 2017 #35

    badrobot said: View Post
    But aren't SSDs supposed to have longer life span compared to conventional hard drives? From the very beginnning we were told that SSDs are less likely to die faster because it has no moving parts. Or is that just a marketing BS?
    Electronics have nasty habit of sudden death.
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  7.    21 Apr 2017 #36

    CountMike said: View Post
    Electronics have nasty habit of sudden death.
    Hence tenforums mantra - make regular image backups :-).
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       21 Apr 2017 #37

    cereberus said: View Post
    hi

    So how do you align them if you find it is not aligned?
    Last time I did that, from memory, it was a real PITA.

    Personally, I find minitool partition wizard the second most useful tool after Macrium Reflect.
    I only had to worry about it once, and thought about it before I imaged to the new SSD.
    I had a Windows 7 laptop(still have it, but it's Windows 10 now) but no USB to disk adapter(or what ever they're called) to clone with.
    So I made a fresh backup image of the 5400rpm HDD,
    Then did a clean in stall of Windows 7 to the SSD,
    then Imaged my C: partition from the backup to the SSD.
    **Note I used Windows 7 own system Image /Backup tool, which I NEVER EVER had a problem with reimaging**
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  •    21 Apr 2017 #38

    NavyLCDR said: View Post
    This one always just kills me: "Or if you're on a desktop with an SSD as its primary drive and a secondary hard drive, it's best to move the Page File to the hard drive and disable it on the SSD."


    What is the reason to use an SSD instead of a HDD? It's to improve performance of the computer. Yet there is this trend among "experts" to recommend doing everything they can to move everything off the SSD. Oh, OK, you shave 15 seconds off the boot time and then by the time you follow the "experts" advice to move programs, data files, caches and pagefiles to a secondary HDD, you are hardly using the SSD after booting.

    I've often thought about starting a thread asking the simple question - Has anyone ever gotten even close to wearing out an SSD due to write cycles? My 4 SSDs, the oldest about 1 year old now, all still show 100% of life remaining in their factory dashboard programs. It just ridiculous the length that some people will go to prevent writing to an SSD.

    A few years ago there was an ongoing wear test over on Extremesystems Forum on many ssd's to see just how long they could take constant writes and still survive. It was an awesome thread and again bottom line of this massive thread was don't ever bother worrying about your drive dying from writes.

    SSD Write Endurance 25nm Vs 34nm
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       21 Apr 2017 #39

    doorules said: View Post
    A few years ago there was an ongoing wear test over on Extremesystems Forum on many ssd's to see just how long they could take constant writes and still survive. It was an awesome thread and again bottom line of this massive thread was don't ever bother worrying about your drive dying from writes.
    SSD Write Endurance 25nm Vs 34nm

    Yea, I spent a lot of time watching that test. Every time I hear someone ask if they should move their Page file, I chuckle and think of that test. I thought it would never end.
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