Windows 10: Free Windows 10 Now Looks A Terrible Deal

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  1.    18 Jul 2015 #201

    I actually don't get all this frenzy - even if you want to upgrade for free, you still have a whole year to do that. Otherwise, Win7 support runs till 2020. As I don't think anyone can predict what will happen that far into the future, I honestly don't see what's the big deal ... BTW, Windows 10 mainstream support ends in 2020, with extended support ending in 2025 ...

    Windows lifecycle fact sheet - Windows Help
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  2.    18 Jul 2015 #202

    HippsieGypsie said: View Post
    I skipped XP. 98SE to 7. Stacks of tools? Like what other than the Context Menu editor?
    XP had a much better Backup utility than anything in Windows 8.1 or 10.
    Annoyingly, when I upgraded from XP to 8, there wasn't even a way to read in my old backup files.
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       18 Jul 2015 #203

    lehnerus2000 said: View Post
    My bad.
    I should have written "features, functions and tools".
    (I've clarified the previous post)

    Here are a couple of links:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Featur..._Windows_Vista
    http://www.brighthub.com/computing/w...les/83951.aspx
    Thanks for that, lehnerus. It surely is a lot of reading! I'll have to see if they categorize according to editions also. At a glance I can see they slimmed down the Shell in 7 and then even more so in 8.

    We know the Shell changes from one previous OS edition to "the next" new OS edition and depending on what OS edition or Server edition what is included or not. < That's a mouthful!

    OK, so as Mystere and others comment, we know they are heading to replace Win32 with WinRT within the Shell. They slimmed the kernel way down and presumably made it more efficient for 8 series. This is in preparation for one platform across all devices to include powerful physical architecture tower PCs/laptops down to the not-so-powerful physical architecture of phones and pads as we have today. In other words one suffers while the others gain. As smaller devices become more powerful through miniaturization of electronic circuitry architecture I think we will see more added to the Shell. This is all coinciding with the Introduction and refinement of WinRT.

    We must remember that WinRT is in its infancy. I'm quite sure we'll see more "features, functions and tools" in coming builds as time goes on. This, of course, depends on the OS edition and the architecture of the device.
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       18 Jul 2015 #204

    DavidY said: View Post
    XP had a much better Backup utility than anything in Windows 8.1 or 10.
    Annoyingly, when I upgraded from XP to 8, there wasn't even a way to read in my old backup files.
    Wasn't there a change from FAT32 to NTFS? I think that would be the reason, yes?
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  5.    18 Jul 2015 #205

    HippsieGypsie said: View Post
    Wasn't there a change from FAT32 to NTFS? I think that would be the reason, yes?
    Windows XP was NTFS (or at least could be) and Backup would still work happily.
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  6.    18 Jul 2015 #206

    DavidY said: View Post
    Windows XP was NTFS (or at least could be) and Backup would still work happily.
    Yeah, I think ME was the last Fat 32 9x OS. Windows NT and Windows 2000 onward supported NTFS. I loved Window 2000. It was my all time favorite until Windows 7 showed up. I think the way it went was an OS installed in NTFS could read FAT 32 drives but not the other way around. If you took an NTFS formatted drive and connected in a PC with a FAT 32 installed OS it couldn't read it.
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  7.    18 Jul 2015 #207

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    Yeah, I think ME was the last Fat 32 9x OS. Windows NT and Windows 2000 onward supported NTFS. I loved Window 2000. It was my all time favorite until Windows 7 showed up. I think the way it went was an OS installed in NTFS could read FAT 32 drives but not the other way around. If you took an NTFS formatted drive and connected in a PC with a FAT 32 installed OS it couldn't read it.
    Win 98 was my favorite BSOD operating system. Ohh how I got used to them blue screens.
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  8.    18 Jul 2015 #208

    I might regret saying this, but I haven't got a blue screen of death in a very long time. Knock on wood. Makes fist, knocks on side of head twice.
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       18 Jul 2015 #209

    AlanWade said: View Post
    Win 98 was my favorite BSOD operating system. Ohh how I got used to them blue screens.
    7 isn't much better. I just took this screenshot at Seven Forums on the 2nd page of "Today's Posts". There are actually people who want to keep this? Ok I haven't had a BSOD coming on 4 years now, but there is still a lot of driver unstability, specially when it comes to USB Controllers, be it OEM or updated.

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  10.    18 Jul 2015 #210

    @Cliff
    Havnt had a BSOD in many years now, just lucky I guess but I do like to stay on top of driver updates etc
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