Windows 10: Free Windows 10 Now Looks A Terrible Deal

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  1.    12 Jul 2015 #91

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    You have to put that in context and see what they were referring too, talking about.
    And that's not clear at the current time...

    It's not like MS hasn't done a quick turnaround before, like they did with Windows 8.0 upgrade to 8.1, where support has changed. Windows 8 is not qualified for free Windows 10 upgrade, while Windows 8.1 does.
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       12 Jul 2015 #92

    So, is Cliff S post #85 correct?

    I am assuming if we go buy that

    July 29, 2015 Start of Mainstreet support
    July 29, 2020 End of Mainstream support Unless a service pack extends it or Microsoft does.
    July 29, 2025 End of Extended Support Unless a service pack extends it or Microsoft does.

    Then comes the new questions, what happens you your Windows 10 computer when extended support ends for example you can't upgrade do to hardware or choose not to pay for an upgrade? Will the computer still work or will you be locked out?
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  3.    12 Jul 2015 #93

    . . .he made do it. . .
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  4.    12 Jul 2015 #94

    groze said: View Post
    So, is Cliff S post #85 correct?

    I am assuming if we go buy that

    July 29, 2015 Start of Mainstreet support
    July 29, 2020 End of Mainstream support Unless a service pack extends it or Microsoft does.
    July 29, 2025 End of Extended Support Unless a service pack extends it or Microsoft does.

    Then comes the new questions, what happens you your Windows 10 computer when extended support ends for example you can't upgrade do to hardware or choose not to pay for an upgrade? Will the computer still work or will you be locked out?
    The support of Windows 10 will never end like other versions. It's going to receive support as long as MS has an OS.. Windows.
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       12 Jul 2015 #95

    groze said: View Post
    So, is Cliff S post #85 correct?

    I am assuming if we go buy that

    July 29, 2015 Start of Mainstreet support
    July 29, 2020 End of Mainstream support Unless a service pack extends it or Microsoft does.
    July 29, 2025 End of Extended Support Unless a service pack extends it or Microsoft does.

    Then comes the new questions, what happens you your Windows 10 computer when extended support ends for example you can't upgrade do to hardware or choose not to pay for an upgrade? Will the computer still work or will you be locked out?

    I told Alpha that, that was the old model(you'll see what I mean if you follow the link), but I suspect the "principle" is the same. But any future "Upgrades" will probably be given, if you are still using the same PC(will your system support them will be the question). A good example is DX12 doesn't do anything for me, my PC(graphic doesn't support it, also I could not use a Hololens, but if they improve Cortana or give Edge a new function we will get it if it comes out in 20 years. When a company talks business legalese and say supported life time they are also talking planned obsolescence.
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  6.    12 Jul 2015 #96

    groze said: View Post
    So, is Cliff S post #85 correct?

    I am assuming if we go buy that

    July 29, 2015 Start of Mainstreet support
    July 29, 2020 End of Mainstream support Unless a service pack extends it or Microsoft does.
    July 29, 2025 End of Extended Support Unless a service pack extends it or Microsoft does.

    Then comes the new questions, what happens you your Windows 10 computer when extended support ends for example you can't upgrade do to hardware or choose not to pay for an upgrade? Will the computer still work or will you be locked out?
    That's the old model from when a new OS was released every couple of years. That's all changing with Windows 10 now being the perpetual Windows.
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       12 Jul 2015 #97

    Cliff S said: View Post
    I told Alpha that, that was the old model(you'll see what I mean if you follow the link), but I suspect the "principle" is the same. But any future "Upgrades" will probably be given, if you are still using the same PC(will your system support them will be the question). A good example is DX12 doesn't do anything for me, my PC(graphic doesn't support it, also I could not use a Hololens, but if they improve Cortana or give Edge a new function we will get it if it comes out in 20 years. When a company talks business legalese and say supported life time they are also talking planned obsolescence.
    I thought Hololens would be a separate device that just uses either WiFi connection or an Ethernet connection. I don't think I could use Hololens because of my disability even if I could afford it. I hope that tested well, I would be I too scarred to test Hololens. I am still really good with computers configurations.

    One time I had redhat, opensuse, Lubuntu, Fedora, windows 7 all on my system at the same time. I found out that Linux desktops options were the same across distros. I have tried more Linux disto that what I have mentioned.
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  8.    12 Jul 2015 #98

    I think it's not likely correct that as Windows 10 ages, that original builds will still be supported in perpetuity though. If you install Windows 10 this August on a DuoCore machine with 16 GB, that machine would receive updates and build improvements as long as that hardware supported it.

    But sooner or later, let's say in 2019, a new Windows 10 build will arrive that absolutely requires a quad core CPU. So those of you who started off on a quad core? Great! You just continue along. I would suggest that the obsolete DuoCore user would be in a similar situation as a Windows 8.0 user is right now. You'll get security updates for a another year or so (maybe the extended time will be lengthened), but at some point you'll be urged to move to a compatible machine that can handle the newest generation of Windows 10.

    I would really look at the MacOS X model as a guide.
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  9.    12 Jul 2015 #99

    Jody Thornton said: View Post
    I think it's not likely correct that as Windows 10 ages, that original builds will still be supported in perpetuity though. If you install Windows 10 this August on a DuoCore machine with 16 GB, that machine would receive updates and build improvements as long as that hardware supported it.

    But sooner or later, let's say in 2019, a new Windows 10 build will arrive that absolutely requires a quad core CPU. So those of you who started off on a quad core? Great! You just continue along. I would suggest that the obsolete DuoCore user would be in a similar situation as a Windows 8.0 user is right now. You'll get security updates for a another year or so (maybe the extended time will be lengthened), but at some point you'll be urged to move to a compatible machine that can handle the newest generation of Windows 10.

    I would really look at the MacOS X model as a guide.
    That's a possibility, some can't upgrade from 8.0 to 8.1 because of hardware requirements of 8.1. Updates won't or shouldn't be an issue, it's upgrades, depending on what they are? If they just don't install, and you continue to get security patches it wouldn't be the end of the world though. You'll still hear some people complain about it though. And cry that they are getting ripped off.
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  10.    12 Jul 2015 #100

    BunnyJ said: View Post
    The life time of the device means as long as the device is working. That can be any length of time.
    Has Microsoft actually stated that? If so where? They can define that to be whatever they want.
    Not saying it you are not correct, but that is just based on an assumption of yours about what Microsoft means by the phrase, which we don't know yet.
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