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  1.    02 Apr 2017 #101
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    Windows 10 x86 14383 Insider Pro and Core 10240

    Crazy, meaningless "How many angels can dance on the head of a pin" polemicals!

    The only system executable in 15063.11 that has changed its version from 15063.0 to 15063.11 and its date from 18th March 2017 to 25th March 2017 is ntoskrnl.exe.

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    All the others are exactly as installed with the datestamp18th March 2017, and the version 15063.0

    Winver (and desktop app Help About dialogs) get their data from various registry entries including the UBR value in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion

    UBR=Update Build Revision

    I believe if you wish, you can edit entries on that page at your peril.
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  2.    02 Apr 2017 #102
    Join Date : Oct 2015
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    windows 10x64

    Quote Originally Posted by jtjt00 View Post
    How to install after download?
    Download this regkey to make it easy.
    After downloading the zipfile, open the zipfile and click the reg key “add to right click menu“.
    Once that’s done, you have an install function for updates in your right click menu.
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    It makes updating a bit easier.

    Download: install-update-to-right-click-menu
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  3.    03 Apr 2017 #103
    Join Date : Jul 2014
    Serbia
    Posts : 10,426
    W10 Insider + Linux

    That WD definition update refused to install before cumulative update and after so cumulative update is probably not to blame. I installed it manually (twice) and system refused it on next auto update try. After that registry change (fix) it was accepted and further updates went thru.
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  4.    03 Apr 2017 #104
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    10x64

    By my last count, since I am the only human capable of duplicating this feat with recurring precision, the number of angels that can *comfortably* sit on the head of a # 5 pin is....4,776. Note I said "comfortably." There are several definitions of "comfortable"--some of which result in the number reducing to 3,433 and some increasing the number to a shade over 5,000 ASOTHOAP. Scientists differ, of course, according to their various predilections about these things--like whether global warming amounts to climate change or simply amounts to cyclical weather patterns dependent on the behavior of our sun. At any rate, the controversy over what is "15063" and what is "15063.11" seems to have finally been resolved, at long last... (And finally, the world sleeps....ZZZZzzzzzz.... G'night, all!)
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  5.    03 Apr 2017 #105
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    Serbia
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    Quote Originally Posted by waltc View Post
    By my last count, since I am the only human capable of duplicating this feat with recurring precision, the number of angels that can *comfortably* sit on the head of a # 5 pin is....4,776. Note I said "comfortably." There are several definitions of "comfortable"--some of which result in the number reducing to 3,433 and some increasing the number to a shade over 5,000 ASOTHOAP. Scientists differ, of course, according to their various predilections about these things--like whether global warming amounts to climate change or simply amounts to cyclical weather patterns dependent on the behavior of our sun. At any rate, the controversy over what is "15063" and what is "15063.11" seems to have finally been resolved, at long last... (And finally, the world sleeps....ZZZZzzzzzz.... G'night, all!)
    Right, until next update.
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  6.    03 Apr 2017 #106
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    W10 Pro + W10 Preview

    Quote Originally Posted by fdegrove View Post
    Hi,



    Furthermore, this is simply not true.
    I have this issue on one machine yet not so on another one even both were clean installed using the same MS IP ISO so, YMMV, right ?

    Cheers,
    Do reread my post #89
    Depends on which version installed....Creator Preview will not allow updating Windows Defender unless you delete mpsigstub in the directory.
    A clean install Build 1703 from an ISO will allow even though they have the same winver, as it is based on Insider, which is a more advanced O/S.
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  7.    03 Apr 2017 #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    That WD definition update refused to install before cumulative update and after so cumulative update is probably not to blame. I installed it manually (twice) and system refused it on next auto update try. After that registry change (fix) it was accepted and further updates went thru.
    Like yourself I did the registry change which seemed to have sorted the problem, unfortunately this morning it again refuses to update.
    I think Hawkman,s post #101 .....a valid explanation.

    Just checked registry....Mpsigstub has reinstalled itself
    Last edited by dencal; 03 Apr 2017 at 04:15. Reason: registry note
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  8.    03 Apr 2017 #108
    Join Date : Oct 2013
    A Finnish expat in Germany
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Sometimes it is a clever move to unsubscribe a thread to avoid bad mood, possibly insulting or hurting your virtual friends, or just to be sure you do not post a comment using vocabulary that makes you seem a heartless son of ....

    Time for me to make that clever move. See you geeks in other threads.
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  9.    03 Apr 2017 #109
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    Sometimes it is a clever move to unsubscribe a thread to avoid bad mood, possibly insulting or hurting your virtual friends, or just to be sure you do not post a comment using vocabulary that makes you seem a heartless son of ....

    Time for me to make that clever move. See you geeks in other threads.
    I sincerely hope you are not referring to me ....I have accepted your explanation, but I believe an "Updated Creator Preview" and a clean ISO installation give different results, this based on my use of both.
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  10.    03 Apr 2017 #110
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    Windows 10 Pro X64

    Hi,

    Quote Originally Posted by dencal View Post
    Do reread my post #89
    Depends on which version installed....Creator Preview will not allow updating Windows Defender unless you delete mpsigstub in the directory.
    A clean install Build 1703 from an ISO will allow even though they have the same winver, as it is based on Insider, which is a more advanced O/S.
    May I suggest you reread my posting which you even quote too ?

    I already stated that all my installs of 15063 IP MS ISO are the same on all 5 occasions.
    On one physical pc WD updates correctly on another it does not do so.

    Cheers,
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