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  1. Cliff S's Avatar
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       02 Apr 2017 #50

    Something I just realized,
    Windows 10 Creators Update coming April 11th 2017

    And

    Client operating systems Latest update or service pack End of mainstream support End of extended support
    Windows XP Service Pack 3 April 14, 2009 April 8, 2014
    Windows Vista Service Pack 2 April 10, 2012 April 11, 2017
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  2.    02 Apr 2017 #51

    swarfega said: View Post
    Would it show as Insider though?
    No. You'll only be insider if you join.

    If you upgrade a non-insider account (or you clean install) you will not be part of the insider program unless you opt-in.
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  3.    02 Apr 2017 #52

    lx07 said: View Post
    No. You'll only be insider if you join.

    If you upgrade a non-insider account (or you clean install) you will not be part of the insider program unless you opt-in.
    Bonus question: In the future if I install ANY insider ISO while on the non-insider ring, it will NEVER add me to the insider ring? Also, when the "official" windows version surpasses this insider build number, will it update me in windows update like normal?
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  4.    02 Apr 2017 #53

    bobsagetfullhou said: View Post
    Bonus question: In the future if I install ANY insider ISO while on the non-insider ring, it will NEVER add me to the insider ring? Also, when the "official" windows version surpasses this insider build number, will it update me in windows update like normal?
    At the moment if you clean install or upgrade to a non-release insider version (anything except for 15063 at the moment) then you are kind of stuck if you aren't in the program. You'll not get any upgrade and as the non-release insider builds are time-bombed it will stop working eventually. In middle of may this year if I remember rightly.

    You could manually create ISOs by downloading the esd files of subsequent builds (or make a VM to get them) and upgrade like that but it would be more of a hassle than it is worth I'd have thought. It would be easier to either join the program (even using a disposable email on a VM) or not install insider builds at all.

    MS could of course change things so insider builds just don't work if you aren't enrolled but they haven't yet. What they do in future is anyone's guess.
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  5.    02 Apr 2017 #54

    bobsagetfullhou said: View Post
    Bonus question: In the future if I install ANY insider ISO while on the non-insider ring, it will NEVER add me to the insider ring? Also, when the "official" windows version surpasses this insider build number, will it update me in windows update like normal?
    It will only add you to the insider ring if you tell it to.

    It is the release version (current), [all be it buy another name], so it will continue to be updated as if retail, as would all installed versions.

    I have done several updates and some clean installs and they all stay as retail/main/release branch
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       03 Apr 2017 #55

    Cliff S said: View Post
    Something I just realized,
    Windows 10 Creators Update coming April 11th 2017

    And

    Client operating systems Latest update or service pack End of mainstream support End of extended support
    Windows XP Service Pack 3 April 14, 2009 April 8, 2014
    Windows Vista Service Pack 2 April 10, 2012 April 11, 2017
    I think both dates are April's 'patch Tuesday', which is why it's the Vista date - it's the last date where Vista will get a patch.

    For Vista users who haven't upgraded yet, it would be nice if Microsoft made available a cheap upgrade to Win10 - a bit like the 25/$40 upgrades to Windows 8 when that came out. Otherwise a Vista user is faced with buying a new computer, or paying for a Windows 10 licence at full price, which is probably more than the value of the computer if it's that old.
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  7.    03 Apr 2017 #56

    @lx07 Thanks for the advice. I have two machines, one I use as an insider testing machine and the other which is my main computer for work/gaming etc.

    So I think I'll clean install main computer today.
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       03 Apr 2017 #57

    DavidY said: View Post
    I think both dates are April's 'patch Tuesday', which is why it's the Vista date - it's the last date where Vista will get a patch.

    For Vista users who haven't upgraded yet, it would be nice if Microsoft made available a cheap upgrade to Win10 - a bit like the 25/$40 upgrades to Windows 8 when that came out. Otherwise a Vista user is faced with buying a new computer, or paying for a Windows 10 licence at full price, which is probably more than the value of the computer if it's that old.
    Some would call that a bonus (no more updates).

    OK, so please read the following in the spirit in which it is intended :)


    My old laptop came with XP, and got the free Vista upgrade. My Dell came with W7 Pro (which I have an unhealthy dislike for. Yes really.) and so I purchased W8.1 which I really took to and liked. MS ruined that one though with all the unwanted update stuff. W10 came along and I realised I could get the pro version for free if I used the old W7 licence. That freed the 8.1 licence for the old laptop and so that to has/had 10 installed. All legal.

    Problem with W10 on old hardware is that it can struggle a little, and more than that I had to jump through a few hoops to even get it to install. Despite making many protestations about default buggy drivers to MS, which rendered it a no go for the average user (clean installing on old hardware that is) I've little doubt the Creators Update will be any different. In fact I've actually gone back to Vista on that laptop at the moment as the overall experience is so much better. Clean install and zero failed updates.

    I have a question :)

    I believe the Creators Update will ask for acceptance of new terms and conditions regarding security and privacy before it installs.

    What happens if you refuse ?

    Do you get to keep W10 in its existing form and never be pestered again ? What about normal security updates and Defender definitions ? Would they still come along ?

    It was with amusement that I followed the MS link (from the WU page in 'setting's) that asks

    Good news! The Windows 10 Creators Update is on its way. Want to be one of the first to get it?
    I expected there to be some action needed if I did want to be one of the first, and also perhaps some path to follow if I did not. Do I have a choice in the matter ? I suspect like everything W10, it will just barrel along in at some point.
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  9.    03 Apr 2017 #58

    I have successfully installed CU on both my machines.
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  10.    03 Apr 2017 #59

    I installed the creators update on my main PC from the ISO that Microsoft posted last week, is going to be the same exact version that goes to the MCT when it becomes available?
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