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  1.    29 Mar 2017 #761
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    This article seems to show that Windows 10 Cloud edition is intended to be more flexible re. Win32 3rd party apps:

    Windows 10 Cloud First Impressions: You Can Install Your Own Software After All | Digital Trends

    Excerpts:
    This is a slightly controversial unannounced version of Windows 10 slated to arrive later this year to compete against Google’s Chrome OS platform installed on Chromebooks. Curious, we downloaded the ISO file and installed the build on a virtual machine to see what the fuss was all about.
    The big stink regarding recent reports about Windows 10 Cloud is that it locks users to the Windows Store. That means users supposedly can’t install traditional (Win32) desktop programs like they would on a typical Windows 10 desktop or laptop. The reason for this “lock down” is to protect customers and devices from potentially harmful programs.
    Not as restrictive as it seems?

    Indeed, when we tried to install Steam on the Windows 10 Cloud virtual machine, that’s the error we received. But before everyone starts gathering in front of Microsoft’s front door with pitchforks and torches, there’s a little detail previous reports neglected to mention: Windows 10 Cloud is not locked to the Windows Store.
    Here’s why. The Settings app in this build of Windows 10 is a little different than what we see on current Anniversary Update machines. It now includes new “Apps” and “Games” subcategories, the former of which contains settings that were originally listed in the “System” subcategory: Apps and features, Default apps, Offline maps, and Apps for websites.
    Thus, when users go into Settings > Apps > Apps & features, the first setting they will see defines where users can purchase apps. There are two settings: Allow apps from the Store only, and Allow apps from anywhere. Did you catch that? Windows 10 Cloud will allow users to install apps from outside the Windows Store.


    They go on to point out that this does not seem to be implemented yet - but it was an early Insider version that had been leaked...
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  2.    29 Mar 2017 #762
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fafhrd View Post
    They go on to point out that this does not seem to be implemented yet - but it was an early Insider version that had been leaked...
    I very strongly disagree with conclusions by that author. I think it's the exact opposite: as the Windows 10 Cloud is still a work in progress, they have not fine tuned it yet, not removed all components which will be removed from final Windows 10 Cloud.

    The option to allow apps from Store only or from everywhere is implemented in normal Windows 10 editions now. I bet my shirt that although it still is available in leaked Cloud version, it will be removed from final Windows 10 Cloud.

    In my opinion the author of that article has arrived to wrong conclusions.

    Kari
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  3.    29 Mar 2017 #763
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    UK
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    Windows 10 preview 64-bit

    Can't find Windows 10 Cloud 32-bit anywhere.
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  4.    29 Mar 2017 #764
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    I very strongly disagree with conclusions by that author. I think it's the exact opposite: as the Windows 10 Cloud is still a work in progress, they have not fine tuned it yet, not removed all components which will be removed from final Windows 10 Cloud.

    The option to allow apps from Store only or from everywhere is implemented in normal Windows 10 editions now. I bet my shirt that although it still is available in leaked Cloud version, it will be removed from final Windows 10 Cloud.

    In my opinion the author of that article has arrived to wrong conclusions.

    Kari
    Agree! But that setting will not disappear. It has to do with the fact that Microsoft MUST allow other app vendors to let them distribute applications through their stores too. MS can and must not force Store monopoly, or they will be sued sooner or later. As an example, take a look at how many lawsuits Google has gotten just because someone thinks they have monopoly.

    All the above is pure speculations.

    Windows Cloud could and can run native applications like Winver.exe etc... but as mentioned in previous posts the OS is supposed to protect the user by not allowing him/her to install native applications. What I just don't get is, that how something can be secure, when one can decompile and hack any .NET application with just a click of a button, which allows the user to see full source.... Go Figure...
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  5.    29 Mar 2017 #765
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    I very strongly disagree with conclusions by that author. I think it's the exact opposite: as the Windows 10 Cloud is still a work in progress, they have not fine tuned it yet, not removed all components which will be removed from final Windows 10 Cloud.

    The option to allow apps from Store only or from everywhere is implemented in normal Windows 10 editions now. I bet my shirt that although it still is available in leaked Cloud version, it will be removed from final Windows 10 Cloud.

    In my opinion the author of that article has arrived to wrong conclusions.

    Kari
    Yeah, another case of ASSUME ;-).

    Just because the app could be installed from outside the Store (when option is enabled), does not mean it is a win32 app. I suspect option is to allow UWPs from other than the Store to be installed in same way you can sideload android apps.
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  6.    29 Mar 2017 #766
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    From reading the last 10 or so pages reminds me of the movie "Moonstruck" I'm confused... Moonstruck - Im Confused.wmv - YouTube
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  7.    29 Mar 2017 #767
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    Quote Originally Posted by meebers View Post
    From reading the last 10 or so pages reminds me of the movie "Moonstruck" I'm confused... Moonstruck - Im Confused.wmv - YouTube
    LOL! So am I, but I realize lack of interest in anything Cloud related is heavily involved with the cause in my case.
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  8.    29 Mar 2017 #768
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    Quote Originally Posted by cereberus View Post
    Yeah, another case of ASSUME ;-).

    Just because the app could be installed from outside the Store (when option is enabled), does not mean it is a win32 app. I suspect option is to allow UWPs from other than the Store to be installed in same way you can sideload android apps.
    This is how I understood the message. Agree
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  9.    29 Mar 2017 #769
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    Update:

    UPDATE 3/29: We have released Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 15063.2 for Mobile to Windows Insiders in the Slow ring.
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  10.    29 Mar 2017 #770
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    Windows 10 Client Insider Preview - Build 15063 downloads are alive at:
    Download Windows 10 Insider Preview Advanced
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