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  1.    02 Apr 2017 #1011
    Join Date : Jan 2017
    Turku
    Posts : 1,768
    Windows 10 Pro IP Build 16299.19 (Branch: RS3 Release)

    Quote Originally Posted by f14tomcat View Post
    Hard to tell where you are.....how long is your daylight now, 1-2 hours?
    Though my life is in a never ending darkness, we can see the sun over 12h a day already.
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  2.    02 Apr 2017 #1012
    Join Date : Oct 2013
    A Finnish expat in Germany
    Posts : 12,939
    Windows 10 Pro

    Another minor issue I have with 15063.11 is that about every third start shows this notification:

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    When that is shown at boot, I can not use Accounts section in Settings. Everything else in Settings works as usual but clicking Accounts on main page immediately closes Settings.
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  3.    02 Apr 2017 #1013
    Join Date : Nov 2014
    Floyd, VA
    Posts : 1,112
    Triple Boot Windows 10 IP Build 17025/Windows Server 2016/Debian Sid

    Happens to me occasionally and is an annoyance. Basically there doesn't seem to be anything amiss when I open settings. I have shared experiences limited to my devices.
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  4.    02 Apr 2017 #1014
    Join Date : Nov 2014
    Floyd, VA
    Posts : 1,112
    Triple Boot Windows 10 IP Build 17025/Windows Server 2016/Debian Sid

    Nested Winvers


    Since there has been no post from anybody but me on this Sunday I thought I'd just post the image below.
    What you see is, from left to right, winveron my Windows 10 host, running a dual boot Hyper-V which has booted into Windows Server 2016, which in turn was remotely connected to my HP Proliant running Windows Server 2016 Essentials with a VMware WS Windows 10 VM.

    Makes me wonder if Microsoft is planning a 2017 update to Windows Server 2016. I'll try to suss it out.Click image for larger version. 

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  5.    02 Apr 2017 #1015
    Join Date : Dec 2014
    Posts : 291
    Win 10 Pro x64 16299.15

    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    Another minor issue I have with 15063.11 is that about every third start shows this notification:

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    When that is shown at boot, I can not use Accounts section in Settings. Everything else in Settings works as usual but clicking Accounts on main page immediately closes Settings.

    Hello Kari,

    It happened to one of my desktops after an upgrade from 1607 to 1703, one time only and as Marty mentioned I to had no problems as you mentioned. Glitch didn't occur on three other upgrades. At least not yet. The machine it did happen on was after the update was applied to 15063.11. Updating the other machines did not produce the error.

    DISM is the thorn in my side now. You've hit the nail on the head imho. By the way, Happy belated Birthday. Noticed it on another group!
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  6.    03 Apr 2017 #1016
    Join Date : Nov 2014
    Floyd, VA
    Posts : 1,112
    Triple Boot Windows 10 IP Build 17025/Windows Server 2016/Debian Sid

    Having too much time on my hands I'm posting another screenshot of Nested Winvers. Again on the left is my physical machine running Windows Server 2016 Standard. On this I've made a VMware WS Dual Boot VM which is a VM created by VMware Converter virtualizing the physical. So that Windows 2016 Server VM is connected again to HP Proliant Windows Server 2016 Business Essentials running a VMwaRe VM of Windows 10. The innermost VM is the same as I posted earlier using the Hyper-V Dual Boot VM on the physical Windows 10. Now that I have this I will turn to most problematic situation where I am running openSUSE Leap 42.3 Alpha with a copy of the VMwaRe Dual Boot. However the RDP program may very well timeout, Click image for larger version. 

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  7.    03 Apr 2017 #1017
    Join Date : Jul 2014
    Serbia
    Posts : 10,415
    W10 Insider + Linux

    Marty, am I getting it wrong or you are emulating an emulator in an emulator ? In other words running VM in a VM ?
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  8.    03 Apr 2017 #1018
    Join Date : Jan 2017
    Turku
    Posts : 1,768
    Windows 10 Pro IP Build 16299.19 (Branch: RS3 Release)

    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Marty, am I getting it wrong or you are emulating an emulator in an emulator ? In other words running VM in a VM ?
    It was a confusing post, but as I understand it, hes cloned his Physical Server, running that clone in a VM on the same server. Then he has another computer, that has a Windows 10 VM that also has been virtualized from a physical computer and he is remote virtualizing Windows 10 from within the Server VM.

    That remote Virtualization could be thought as a Remote Desktop connection, though being a virtual machine. In the end he's virtualizing only once on each hardware.

    Ok, now I see my post isn't much less complicated than Marty's


    EDIT: Essentially he has cloned his physical hardware and is virtualizing it for testing. If something breaks, he knows what NOT to do on the physical/real computers.
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  9.    03 Apr 2017 #1019
    Join Date : Dec 2015
    Posts : 5,841
    Windows10

    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    I got it now.

    Researching this a bit more, I can now see how it works. When Windows can't access my precise de facto location, it relies on information given by user. In my case, although being located in Germany (time zone UTC+1), when Windows can't find the precise location it uses the location set by user.

    As I want my Windows to be as much English as possible, including day / date names and formats I always set location manually to UK:

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    When Windows is not sure about the actual location, it uses this information. In my case, time zone being applied automatically, Windows when unable to find de facto location based on location services thinks I am in UK and sets time zone accordingly which then causes Windows time being -1 hour off.

    Disabling automatic time zone seems to be an easy and perfect solution.
    I think there must be a minor bug. My time waa plus one hour (GMT+2) and all my settings are en-GB and using en-GB version.

    Turning off auto time, resetting time manully and turning auto time seems to have done trick.

    As far as I recall bug only surfaced when DST came into force.
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  10.    03 Apr 2017 #1020
    Join Date : Nov 2014
    Floyd, VA
    Posts : 1,112
    Triple Boot Windows 10 IP Build 17025/Windows Server 2016/Debian Sid

    Actually no. I can be done but performance is lousy.

    Let's take the first example. Keep in mind that I have a dual boot Windows system (we can leave out the openSUSE OS here).

    1. Physical machine running Windows 10 Build 15063. Installed Hyper-V feature
    2. Create, using disk2vhd.exe a Hyper-V VM of the physical machine. Kari posted a tutorial on this awhile back but I've used that program before.
    3. Inside the Hyper-V VM I boot into Windows Server 2016.
    4. I use the Microsoft Remote Desktop Connection program to log into a HP Server running Windows 2016 Essentials on which I've installed VMware WS 12.5 and created a Windows 10 VM. I open that VM from my Windows 10 Desktop a whole 4 feet away. Just using a Netgear router my wife has see up to share an Ethernet connection.

    On the second example

    1. Booted into Windows Server 2016 from my desktop machine. I've installed VMware WS 12.5 and created a dual boot VMware VM of my physical machine using VMware. From there I boot again to the the virtualized Windows Server 2016 and use Remote Desktop Connection to bring up the same VM running Windows 10 on the HP Server.

    In otherwords the same VM winver is the screenshot on the right.

    I've never been able to connect to the Windows Server on the HP from openSUSE (or an Linux for that matter) so that just shows (and many of us nerds know this) -- the difficult we do right away - the impossible takes a little longer

    Hope this clarifies. I now realize it would help if besides showing winver I should have a command prompt session running ipconfig to show the ip addresses.
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