Windows 10: Microsoft locks Ryzen and Kaby Lake users out of updates on Windows 7

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       20 Mar 2017 #41

    jimbo45 said: View Post
    Hi there

    with more complex stuff (AI design / encryption methodology, theoretical physics etc) we are GOING sooner or later to need another step up in computing power -- and you can't just keep adding more "co-processors" -- the next upgrade is going to eventually need a 128 bit OS and memory to go with it.

    Once you get more than several co-processors operating the overhead rises rapidly -- for example an 8 way co-processor isn't as powerful as 8 X a single processor but about 6.5 times - and the overhead increases rapidly after that.

    W10 will eventually be as obsolete as Windows 3.1 -- not Ms's fault but just the nature of us Humans getting ever more sophisticated with what we want to do with computers.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    and again the new releases/builds UNDER 10.
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  2.    20 Mar 2017 #42

    Well no one here ever wants to somewhat criticize Microsoft it seems, not even voice a concern. It's one thing to not want to support newer chipsets functions, but it's a whole lot different than actively blocking certain chipset/processors from receiving updates.

    Microsoft isn't some magically company that is free from flaws and isn't beyond from using tactics like this to increase the usage of Windows 10 to increase their revenue stream. But it seems like we aren't allowed to question them here, everything they do is great and we should bow down to them.
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       20 Mar 2017 #43

    Microsoft tried it the other way round for one of my pc's, the update from W7 would not work with an ancient socket 939 until I ran a clean install ISO of W10. The pc has run W10 hp 32 faultlessly since just before the end of the free upgrades.
    The volunteers at a museum use it for all sorts of things and they all like W10.
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  4.    20 Mar 2017 #44

    tinmar49 said: View Post
    Microsoft tried it the other way round for one of my pc's, the update from W7 would not work with an ancient socket 939 until I ran a clean install ISO of W10. The pc has run W10 hp 32 faultlessly since just before the end of the free upgrades.
    The volunteers at a museum use it for all sorts of things and they all like W10.
    MS is anxious to get rid of W7, there must be whole team just to keep it current and updated. They could be put to better use developing and maintaining W10. I still have W7 in dual boot but it's only used as a reserve system and some games. It's just fine as it is and will be transferred (it's retail version) to a spare computer I will make after crossing to Ryzen sometime this year. It will be a very small mini ITX machine which is a bit older so W7 will fit it like a glove. No use of throwing out a perfectly good registration. I have an even older laptop with XP on it and it still does what it did when new.
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  5.    20 Mar 2017 #45

    OilerNut said: View Post
    Well no one here ever wants to somewhat criticize Microsoft it seems, not even voice a concern. It's one thing to not want to support newer chipsets functions, but it's a whole lot different than actively blocking certain chipset/processors from receiving updates.

    Microsoft isn't some magically company that is free from flaws and isn't beyond from using tactics like this to increase the usage of Windows 10 to increase their revenue stream. But it seems like we aren't allowed to question them here, everything they do is great and we should bow down to them.
    When necessary I will criticize anyone, including MS. But in this case, your off base. Why would you want to use an outdated OS on a new high powered processor? In the case of Win7 they dropped official support in 2015 and only did a extension for hardware that was out up to and including 2015,.

    Win8.1 is going away in a year and I don't see why that would be used either. Given the lack of love for that OS I find it hard to fathom that anyone would want that on a current PC.
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  6.    20 Mar 2017 #46

    CountMike said: View Post
    MS is anxious to get rid of W7, there must be whole team just to keep it current and updated. They could be put to better use developing and maintaining W10. I still have W7 in dual boot but it's only used as a reserve system and some games. It's just fine as it is and will be transferred (it's retail version) to a spare computer I will make after crossing to Ryzen sometime this year. It will be a very small mini ITX machine which is a bit older so W7 will fit it like a glove. No use of throwing out a perfectly good registration. I have an even older laptop with XP on it and it still does what it did when new.
    +!, They dropped full support for 7 in 2015. It's gone for all purposes,
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  7.    20 Mar 2017 #47

    CountMike said: View Post
    MS is anxious to get rid of W7, there must be whole team just to keep it current and updated. They could be put to better use developing and maintaining W10. I still have W7 in dual boot but it's only used as a reserve system and some games. It's just fine as it is and will be transferred (it's retail version) to a spare computer I will make after crossing to Ryzen sometime this year. It will be a very small mini ITX machine which is a bit older so W7 will fit it like a glove. No use of
    throwing out a perfectly good registration. I have an even older laptop with XP on it and it still does what it did when new.
    Newegg is till selling Windows 7. Microsoft is still profiting from it. Newegg should post a warning to shoppers.
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  8.    20 Mar 2017 #48

    Looey said: View Post
    Newegg is till selling Windows 7. Microsoft is still profiting from it. Newegg should post a warning to shoppers.
    Newegg shouldn't be selling an OS that is not supported. The end was 2015
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       20 Mar 2017 #49

    Looey said: View Post
    Newegg is till selling Windows 7. Microsoft is still profiting from it. Newegg should post a warning to shoppers.
    Why? And cut their profits?
    If someone wants to buy it, because the believe all the tinfoil hat BS about Win10,
    One: They get what they deserve,
    and,
    Two: They shouldn't be using a computer anyhow
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  10.    20 Mar 2017 #50

    Cliff S said: View Post
    Why? And cut their profits?
    If someone wants to buy it, because the believe all the tinfoil hat BS about Win10,
    One: They get what they deserve,
    and,
    Two: They shouldn't be using a computer anyhow
    Lastly,,caveat emptor - Buyer beware..
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