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  1.    02 Mar 2017 #151
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Arnold, MD
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    Triple boot - Win 10 Pro, Win 10 Pro Insider (2) - (and a sprinkling of VMs)

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    I'm sorry, I see my mistake now. Poor file management on my part. Thanks guys.
    That's ok. I got your state wrong!
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  2.    02 Mar 2017 #152
    Join Date : Nov 2014
    The Netherlands
    Posts : 628
    Win 10 Pro x64 1607 (Build 14393.953)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    You can clean install any other language like for instance EN-GB any time, it activates automatically based on your machine's digital license. Windows product keys and digital licenses are version and edition but not bit version and language specific; you can buy a laptop with pre-installed French Windows 10 Pro in France, bring it home and clean install a Dutch Windows 10 Pro on that laptop skipping the product key, it will be automatically activated.
    Alternatively you can upgrade with another language version ISO image for the same edition. You will lose your installed software, of course, but activation remains.
    Kari
    Really bad typo, I sincerely apologize.

    Thanks again Kari for explaining me on how - based on my own misunderstanding about the cores of Windows activation requirements - really work. Again appreciated!

    Just UUP-updated to /15046 and downloaded and installed the latest WD definitions. Oh boy, how quick these upgrades/updates are processed with the latest builds. Great work MS!

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    WD-DU

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    But, the WD-DU does not show in the Update History overview.

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    Up-and-running again in my VM-WIN10-15046u and glad I didn't jump-ship and kill my VM-WIN10-15031 install due to the major hiccup, because now I know "...everything's gonna be alright, tonight!" eventually.

    Cheers
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  3.    02 Mar 2017 #153
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Arnold, MD
    Posts : 29,029
    Triple boot - Win 10 Pro, Win 10 Pro Insider (2) - (and a sprinkling of VMs)

    Quote Originally Posted by M4v3r1ck View Post
    Thanks again Kari for explaining me on how - based on my own misunderstanding about the cores of Windows activation requirements - really work. Again appreciated!

    Just UUP-updated to /15046 and downloaded and installed the latest WD definitions. Oh boy, how quick these upgrades/updates are processed with the latest builds. Great work MS!

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    But, the WD-DU does not show in the Update History overview.

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    Up-and-running again in my VM-WIN10-15046u and glad I didn't jump-ship and kill my VM-WIN10-15031 install due to the major hiccup, because now I know "...everything's gonna be alright, tonight!" eventually.

    Cheers
    Defender Defs don't show in Update History because they're not really system/security updates....just definition file updates.

    They will show in Reliability History.

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  4.    02 Mar 2017 #154
    Join Date : Nov 2014
    The Netherlands
    Posts : 628
    Win 10 Pro x64 1607 (Build 14393.953)

    Quote Originally Posted by f14tomcat View Post
    Defender Defs don't show in Update History because they're not really system/security updates....just definition file updates.

    They will show in Reliability History.
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    Thanks for your prompt feedback, just checked.

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    Obvious MS should change the "Problem Details" windows header in "Successful Installs and/or Updates". A successful Windows Update is hardly to be called a "Problem"! /nit-picking

    Oh no wait, let me file my tip as my first ever Insiders Hub entry...

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    I'm really behind schedule in my feedback hub-section, so I really need some serious catching up to do in the upcoming weeks! Even a steaper learning curve ahead of me, but enjoying every bit of it so glad I joined the IP.

    Cheers
    Last edited by M4v3r1ck; 02 Mar 2017 at 15:37.
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  5.    02 Mar 2017 #155
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Arnold, MD
    Posts : 29,029
    Triple boot - Win 10 Pro, Win 10 Pro Insider (2) - (and a sprinkling of VMs)

    Quote Originally Posted by M4v3r1ck View Post
    Thanks for your prompt feedback, just checked.

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    Obvious MS should change the "Problem Details" windows header in "Successful Installs and/or Updates". A successful Windows Update is hardly to be called a "Problem"! /nit-picking

    Cheers
    That depends on whose definition of successful you're using!
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  6.    02 Mar 2017 #156
    Join Date : Nov 2014
    The Netherlands
    Posts : 628
    Win 10 Pro x64 1607 (Build 14393.953)

    Quote Originally Posted by f14tomcat View Post
    That depends on whose definition of successful you're using!

    The overall consensus one!
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  7.    02 Mar 2017 #157
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Manchester CT
    Posts : 359
    Windows 10 Fast Ring

    Quote Originally Posted by MariusPetran View Post
    I have a question about game mode,its somehow connected to the Game Bar ? Because i have to disable Game DVR and this can be done by disabling the game bar,did the game mode enable itself when i play an supported game ? like gta v ? i leave the game mode on,but i can't confirm if this is working without game bar.
    Maybe we have to send an feedback to Microsoft,to lets us decide what we keep on game bar,like we can disable the recording/broadcast,but keep the screenshot function and game mode controls.
    I have found nothing in the Game mode settings seem to be functioning. I suspect that the setting are just placeholders for the settings (for now). Since a lot of these are duplicated by the graphics card manufacturers, I recommend using them until things start working.
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  8.    02 Mar 2017 #158
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    Dublin, Ireland
    Posts : 843
    Windows 1.00 to Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Build 14971.1000

    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    I asked forums admin & owner @z3r010 permission to share 15046 PRO x64 ISO links, feeling somewhat responsible because UUP to ISO method as told in my tutorial is not working with this build upgrade.

    I am sorry but as I have no use for Home edition and 32 bit Windows, I don't do ISO images for them. I can only offer Windows 10 PRO x64 Build 15046 ISO images in UK and US English.

    Download links:

    Images are on my OneDrive, download requires a Microsoft email (hotmail.com, outlook.com, live.com, msn.com) or a Microsoft Account with a third party email.

    Kari
    I used the ISO 64-bit to install in Hyper-v. Wouldn't install in Generation 2 mode. Installed in Generation 1 mode.
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  9.    02 Mar 2017 #159
    Join Date : Oct 2013
    A Finnish expat in Germany
    Posts : 12,971
    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by fjk61011 View Post
    I used the ISO 64-bit to install in Hyper-v. Wouldn't install in Generation 2 mode. Installed in Generation 1 mode.
    What? My ISO images are always made for both Generation 1 (BIOS / MBR) and Generation 2 (UEFI / GPT).

    Tested now, I have no issues to install in Generation 2. Did you go to VM settings before starting the VM and disable Secure Boot? A Gen 2 VM in Hyper-V cannot boot from DVD / ISO if Secure Boot is enabled.

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    Notice that even if you have Secure Boot disabled, sometimes when you Start VM the Press any key to boot from DVD has already timed out when VM Window will be fully opened, therefore showing this:

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    Workaround is really simple: just select Action > reset to restart, this time you will have the option to start from DVD:

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    Kari
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  10.    02 Mar 2017 #160
    Join Date : Dec 2015
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    Windows10

    Quote Originally Posted by martyfelker View Post
    It is very late at night and I'm going to do some more investigating before I reply one way or the other. In particular I'm not understanding the statement "You are given a generic 10 key which has no license functionality and this key is the same for all users of that edition". I doubt that one generic key is used by several million (maybe tens of million) users who have upgraded. I know for sure that the Windows 8 and 8.1 I purchased have been used to activate many of my VMs. This issue is quite murky - even more now the addition of activation troubleshooter database.
    It is very simple. Upgrades do not use product key activation. Your licence is a new digital licence tied to unique mobo id and registered with MS. So when you reinstall it, MS check your hardware id against their activation database and if they find a match it activates automatically.

    They simply give a generic key which is same for everybody just so it is obvious pc has a digital licence (and presumably to stop software crashing).

    The key is no longer used for upgrades.

    There are zillions of articles on this. Just google Windows 10 digital licence.
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