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  1.    27 Feb 2017 #1
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    Microsoft prepares to roll out new update options for Windows 10


    In the Creators Update, this spring's big Windows 10 release, Microsoft is adding some new knobs and levers for managing updates, including an option to delay feature updates by up to a year. Here's what you can expect.

    The single most common complaint I've heard about Windows 10 is its lack of control over update timing. That's annoying enough for monthly security updates, which typically take just a few minutes to install. But when a feature update (the new name for major version upgrades that now arrive twice a year) kicks off its installation without warning, it can render the PC unusable for an hour or more.

    In two previous feature updates, Windows 10 added options to defer the installation of updates and to pause them temporarily. These settings were primarily aimed at enterprise admins, however, with the most useful options requiring changes to Group Policy.

    The Windows 10 Creators Update, due for release this spring, consolidates those update controls into the Settings app, adding some knobs and levers that make them much easier to manage. You'll pay for the privilege, though: the new update controls are available only for the Pro/Enterprise/Education editions. The entry-level edition, Windows 10 Home, offers none of the new update controls.

    If you're running the latest Windows 10 Insider preview build, 15042, you won't see these changes. But the user interface is available for inspection if you know where to look. Here's what you can expect to see when this update rolls out in April.

    So how will the new controls work?


    Read more: Microsoft prepares to roll out new update options for Windows 10 | ZDNet


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  2.    27 Feb 2017 #2
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    This is good news.. for Pro + users..

    The cynic in me though says that Microsoft are now asking people to upgrade (ie: pay) for the privilege of having a feature that most would agree should be included in all editions, after all home editions get screwed up as much as any other edition with these flaky updates, and time taken to update (which was the reason given).
    Maybe its an admission that even giving windows10 away free just isn't working, forced updates aren't working, and now they need the cash.
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  3.    28 Feb 2017 #3
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    Just make Windows Updates like they were in Vista/7/8. Present us a list of updates and allow us to CHOOSE which ones to install, including drivers. Set the default option to auto install for all I care, just give us an option to set it for how the customer wants it.

    Why does this have to be so difficult?
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  4.    28 Feb 2017 #4
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    Windows 10 Home x64 (Laptop), Windows 10 Pro x64 (Desktop)

    Typical tight fisted MS - this is a basic feature which should be in the Home edition.
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  5.    28 Feb 2017 #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve C View Post
    Typical tight fisted MS - this is a basic feature which should be in the Home edition.
    Actually, I do not entirely agree.

    The reality is vast majority of users (Home users now) on previous versions disabled updates and put pcs at risk without understanding what they were doing.

    It is a basic fact that Pro Users tend to be more experienced users and have a greater understanding of how to do things and risks involved, and pay for the privilege of extra features.

    I would say though that Home Users should have more control over driver updates.
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  6.    28 Feb 2017 #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by OilerNut View Post
    Just make Windows Updates like they were in Vista/7/8. Present us a list of updates and allow us to CHOOSE which ones to install, including drivers. Set the default option to auto install for all I care, just give us an option to set it for how the customer wants it.

    Why does this have to be so difficult?
    This has been discussed ad nauseam.

    Reason is because so many uninformed people turned it off and never updated and got pcs in a real mess with viruses etc. that MS were forced to act.

    Continual whinging about it does not change basic fact - MS are not going to compromise so people either have to "deal with it" or upgrade to PRO. Simple cost benefit analysis - is the feature worth the extra money to you personally.

    Alternatively - go back to old OS.
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  7.    28 Feb 2017 #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve C View Post
    Typical tight fisted MS - this is a basic feature which should be in the Home edition.
    Just like with Start, at first MS removed it, than advertised it as a great new feature.
    Now they are doing the same with something, that was normally present since XP.
    There are many ways to disable updates in Home, I have one method, which works.

    Quote Originally Posted by cereberus View Post
    The reality is vast majority of users (Home users now) on previous versions disabled updates and put pcs at risk without understanding what they were doing.
    The problem is, that updates in 10 are more messed up than ever before, so even basic users have to find out, how to disable them. I myself was lucky, only a bad driver via updates crippled my system, safe mode was not working, so I had to use Windows USB to boot to be able to run system restore.
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  8.    28 Feb 2017 #8
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    There's updates and than there are updates. There should be no question about security updates, they should be mandatory and seamlessly integrated as they do not (or at least shouldn't) change anything in the way programs and APPs work.
    Driver updates should definitively be "On demand" and even completely manual.
    Feature updates and new features can do most "damage" if system was altered in any way and that's why they should be announced well in advance and carefully explained as well as precautions for system usage.
    APP updates should be configured so they are offered on particular APP's use.
    So layered updates would get rid of most complaints and satisfy almost everybody, even staunch detractors and control "freaks".
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  9.    28 Feb 2017 #9
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    Windows 7 (SP1)

    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    There's updates and than there are updates. There should be no question about security updates, they should be mandatory and seamlessly integrated as they do not (or at least shouldn't) change anything in the way programs and APPs work.
    Driver updates should definitively be "On demand" and even completely manual.
    Feature updates and new features can do most "damage" if system was altered in any way and that's why they should be announced well in advance and carefully explained as well as precautions for system usage.
    APP updates should be configured so they are offered on particular APP's use.
    So layered updates would get rid of most complaints and satisfy almost everybody, even staunch detractors and control "freaks".
    I would agree with this, even though I update manually I would normally install security updates as soon as notification came up.
    It's those darn pesky 'feature updates' that annoy the most.

    They could simply of course make auto updates the default, while allowing users to alter it, and it should be available throughout all versions. The problem updates and the time it takes to update isn't just a problem for Pro/business users
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  10.    28 Feb 2017 #10
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    Windows 7 (SP1)

    Quote Originally Posted by TairikuOkami View Post
    The problem is, that updates in 10 are more messed up than ever before, so even basic users have to find out, how to disable them. I myself was lucky, only a bad driver via updates crippled my system, safe mode was not working, so I had to use Windows USB to boot to be able to run system restore.
    That's just the point, a bad updates screws it up for users across the board. Microsoft seem to have taken the ''well it was free so what's you problem' route with home users, we are all it seems beta testers for industry / business users.

    Then they scratch their heads wondering why people are so stubborn sticking with windows 7 !

    Do they really wonder why some simply turn off auto updates, how selfish we are, not wanting to spend hours (sometimes days of frustration) getting round new problems (sorry features) introduced in updates.

    Z
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