Microsoft prepares to roll out new update options for Windows 10

zooburner · 27 Feb 2017

This is good news.. for Pro + users..

The cynic in me though says that Microsoft are now asking people to upgrade (ie: pay) for the privilege of having a feature that most would agree should be included in all editions, after all home editions get screwed up as much as any other edition with these flaky updates, and time taken to update (which was the reason given).
Maybe its an admission that even giving windows10 away free just isn't working, forced updates aren't working, and now they need the cash.

OilerNut · 28 Feb 2017

Just make Windows Updates like they were in Vista/7/8. Present us a list of updates and allow us to CHOOSE which ones to install, including drivers. Set the default option to auto install for all I care, just give us an option to set it for how the customer wants it.

Why does this have to be so difficult?

Steve C · 28 Feb 2017

Typical tight fisted MS - this is a basic feature which should be in the Home edition.

cereberus · 28 Feb 2017

Steve C said:

Typical tight fisted MS - this is a basic feature which should be in the Home edition.

Actually, I do not entirely agree.

The reality is vast majority of users (Home users now) on previous versions disabled updates and put pcs at risk without understanding what they were doing.

It is a basic fact that Pro Users tend to be more experienced users and have a greater understanding of how to do things and risks involved, and pay for the privilege of extra features.

I would say though that Home Users should have more control over driver updates.

cereberus · 28 Feb 2017

OilerNut said:

Just make Windows Updates like they were in Vista/7/8. Present us a list of updates and allow us to CHOOSE which ones to install, including drivers. Set the default option to auto install for all I care, just give us an option to set it for how the customer wants it.

Why does this have to be so difficult?

This has been discussed ad nauseam.

Reason is because so many uninformed people turned it off and never updated and got pcs in a real mess with viruses etc. that MS were forced to act.

Continual whinging about it does not change basic fact - MS are not going to compromise so people either have to "deal with it" or upgrade to PRO. Simple cost benefit analysis - is the feature worth the extra money to you personally.

Alternatively - go back to old OS.

TairikuOkami · 28 Feb 2017

Steve C said:

Typical tight fisted MS - this is a basic feature which should be in the Home edition.

Just like with Start, at first MS removed it, than advertised it as a great new feature.
Now they are doing the same with something, that was normally present since XP.
There are many ways to disable updates in Home, I have one method, which works.

cereberus said:

The reality is vast majority of users (Home users now) on previous versions disabled updates and put pcs at risk without understanding what they were doing.

The problem is, that updates in 10 are more messed up than ever before, so even basic users have to find out, how to disable them. I myself was lucky, only a bad driver via updates crippled my system, safe mode was not working, so I had to use Windows USB to boot to be able to run system restore.

CountMike · 28 Feb 2017

There's updates and than there are updates. There should be no question about security updates, they should be mandatory and seamlessly integrated as they do not (or at least shouldn't) change anything in the way programs and APPs work.
Driver updates should definitively be "On demand" and even completely manual.
Feature updates and new features can do most "damage" if system was altered in any way and that's why they should be announced well in advance and carefully explained as well as precautions for system usage.
APP updates should be configured so they are offered on particular APP's use.
So layered updates would get rid of most complaints and satisfy almost everybody, even staunch detractors and control "freaks".

zooburner · 28 Feb 2017

CountMike said:

There's updates and than there are updates. There should be no question about security updates, they should be mandatory and seamlessly integrated as they do not (or at least shouldn't) change anything in the way programs and APPs work.
Driver updates should definitively be "On demand" and even completely manual.
Feature updates and new features can do most "damage" if system was altered in any way and that's why they should be announced well in advance and carefully explained as well as precautions for system usage.
APP updates should be configured so they are offered on particular APP's use.
So layered updates would get rid of most complaints and satisfy almost everybody, even staunch detractors and control "freaks".

I would agree with this, even though I update manually I would normally install security updates as soon as notification came up.
It's those darn pesky 'feature updates' that annoy the most.

They could simply of course make auto updates the default, while allowing users to alter it, and it should be available throughout all versions. The problem updates and the time it takes to update isn't just a problem for Pro/business users

zooburner · 28 Feb 2017

TairikuOkami said:

The problem is, that updates in 10 are more messed up than ever before, so even basic users have to find out, how to disable them. I myself was lucky, only a bad driver via updates crippled my system, safe mode was not working, so I had to use Windows USB to boot to be able to run system restore.

That's just the point, a bad updates screws it up for users across the board. Microsoft seem to have taken the ''well it was free so what's you problem' route with home users, we are all it seems beta testers for industry / business users.

Then they scratch their heads wondering why people are so stubborn sticking with windows 7 !

Do they really wonder why some simply turn off auto updates, how selfish we are, not wanting to spend hours (sometimes days of frustration) getting round new problems (sorry features) introduced in updates.

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