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  1.    26 Feb 2017 #181
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Arnold, MD
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    Triple boot - Win 10 Pro, Win 10 Pro Insider (2) - (and a sprinkling of VMs)

    Quote Originally Posted by lmod View Post
    Is anyone else seeing the difference in Windows Defender?
    On the last few builds periodic scanning by Defender was available even when a 3rd party antivirus was in use. Definition updates for Defender were installed through Windows Update. And periodic scanning did occur.
    I am running Vipre Pro AV. In this build 15042 a different page (compared with previous builds) opens when the "Turn on Windows Defender Antivirus" button is clicked, but it closes after about 3 seconds. The page is not populated, other than the shield logo.
    I found that shutting down Vipre allowed the Window Defender page to open and be populated, and to remain open. After restarting Vipre, the first time I opened the Defender page it opened (and was populated) but closed after a few seconds. Subsequent attempts to open the Defender page result in an un-populated page appearing for about 3 seconds.
    @lmod If you have the option in Vipre, unregister it in Windows. That's what I did with MBAM, and all is fine, both run with all options.
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  2.    26 Feb 2017 #182
    Join Date : Apr 2014
    Space coast of Florida
    Posts : 5,340
    Windows 10 Pro X64 16299.19

    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    • Fact: If your Windows 10, regardless of its build, downloaded and prepared build 15042 upgrade, the upgrade files needed to create an ISO image, all of them including all ESD files were downloaded and stored in folder C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download\d00630587706295696417aabf4685ed4
    • Fact: It is impossible to upgrade to build 15042 using Windows Update without said files (including ESD files) being stored in said folder
    • Fact: Those files will be (mostly) removed when upgrade has been done and finished
    • Fact: In some cases those files can still be seen after the upgrade has been done and finished in folder C:\Windows.old\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download\d00630587706295696417aabf4685ed4. However, for reasons unknown to me this is true in most cases but not always, for instance in my case I've done 7 15042 upgrades since yesterday, of those upgrades 6 (PRO x64 in Finnish, UK English, US English and German, EDUCATION x64 in UK English and US English the files were in said folder under Windows.old but they were nowhere to seen in Swedish PRO x64 upgrade

    Kari
    All worked perfectly on my laptop. I have no idea why the files were not there on the Oracle VM but they were not.
    I'll try it again by putting 15031 back n the VMthen upgrade to 15042 and see what happens.

    Could it have anything to do with UUP being off on the VM? I know it shouldn't but ...
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  3.    26 Feb 2017 #183
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Arnold, MD
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    Triple boot - Win 10 Pro, Win 10 Pro Insider (2) - (and a sprinkling of VMs)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ztruker View Post
    All worked perfectly on my laptop. I have no idea why the files were not there on the Oracle VM but they were not.
    I'll try it again by putting 15031 back n the VMthen upgrade to 15042 and see what happens.

    Could it have anything to do with UUP being off on the VM? I know it shouldn't but ...
    Good question. I couldn't get it to budge with UUP off, so had to set ON. Went really smooth then. Good luck...you'll probably be fine.
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  4.    26 Feb 2017 #184
    Join Date : Feb 2014
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    Windows 10 Professional

    A different kind of UAC prompt rumored for Creator Update.
    (Rumored to block installation of Win32 apps)

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  5.    26 Feb 2017 #185
    Join Date : Oct 2013
    A Finnish expat in Germany
    Posts : 12,953
    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Ztruker View Post
    Could it have anything to do with UUP being off on the VM? I know it shouldn't but ...
    Quote Originally Posted by f14tomcat View Post
    Good question. I couldn't get it to budge with UUP off, so had to set ON. Went really smooth then. Good luck...you'll probably be fine.
    I don't want to start a fight or an argument, I am just stating some facts:

    • For Windows upgrade it's absolutely completely totally irrelevant if the system being upgraded is a physical or a virtual machine. A virtual machine behaves and is in every aspect of upgrade as any physical machine
    • Saying that in UUP upgrade method the Insider build upgrade files (including 10+ ESD files) were not in a specific subfolder in C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download is absolutely not true. In build 15042 upgrade that specific folder was / is d00630587706295696417aabf4685ed4
    • Without those files in said folder upgrade is / had been impossible.

    I repeat: it is not possible to upgrade to Windows 10 Insider Build 15042 using UUP method / Windows Update without having those upgrade files in folder d00630587706295696417aabf4685ed4. It is absolutely impossible.

    Kari
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  6.    26 Feb 2017 #186
    Join Date : Apr 2014
    Space coast of Florida
    Posts : 5,340
    Windows 10 Pro X64 16299.19

    Nope, no fight, just discussion

    As I said, the laptop went smooth and all worked perfectly. ISO generated and saved along with the zipped up UUP folder.

    Code:
    ===============================================================================
    Convert CAB > ESD . . .
    ===============================================================================
    
    
    ===============================================================================
    Creating Setup Media Layout . . .
    ===============================================================================
    
    
    ===============================================================================
    Creating boot.wim . . .
    ===============================================================================
    
    Using LZX compression with 2 threads
    Archiving file data: 871 MiB of 871 MiB (100%) done
    
    ===============================================================================
    Creating install.wim . . .
    ===============================================================================
    
    Using LZX compression with 2 threads
    Archiving file data: 7088 MiB of 7088 MiB (100%) done
    
    ===============================================================================
    Adding winre.wim to install.wim . . .
    ===============================================================================
    
    
    ===============================================================================
    Creating ISO . . .
    ===============================================================================
    
    OSCDIMG 2.56 CD-ROM and DVD-ROM Premastering Utility
    Copyright (C) Microsoft, 1993-2012. All rights reserved.
    Licensed only for producing Microsoft authorized content.
    
    
    Scanning source tree (1500 files in 54 directories)
    Scanning source tree complete (1705 files in 99 directories)
    
    Computing directory information complete
    
    Image file is 4085874688 bytes (before optimization)
    
    Writing 1705 files in 99 directories to 15042.0.170219-2329.RS2_RELEASE_CLIENTPRO_OEMRET_X64FRE_EN-US.ISO
    
    100% complete
    
    Storage optimization saved 20 files, 516096 bytes (0% of image)
    
    After optimization, image file is 4089067520 bytes
    Space saved because of embedding, sparseness or optimization = 516096
    
    Done.
    
    Press any key to exit.
    Thanks for all your work on this Kari. It's been a great help throughout the Insider program.
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  7.    26 Feb 2017 #187
    Join Date : Apr 2014
    Space coast of Florida
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    Windows 10 Pro X64 16299.19

    Thought I remembered seeing a post in this thread that said roll back wasn't working.

    I just tried it and was successful going from 15042 back to 15031. Took less than 10 minutes.

    Turned UUP off again via the registry change and I just started toe 15042 upgrade again.

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    Will see what happens this time.
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  8.    26 Feb 2017 #188
    Join Date : Apr 2014
    Space coast of Florida
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    Windows 10 Pro X64 16299.19

    Update good to 15042. UUP files where there are supposed to be and all is well.
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  9.    26 Feb 2017 #189
    Join Date : Jun 2014
    San Diego, CA
    Posts : 1,704
    Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview x64

    I had to roll back to AU on my gaming machine again. Every 15xxx build so far has been a disaster in terms of gaming for me so far. This build had games dropping down to 1 FPS ever few seconds, making them unplayable. Filed feedback before rolling back, so hopefully it catches Microsoft's eye.
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  10.    27 Feb 2017 #190
    Join Date : Nov 2014
    The Netherlands
    Posts : 628
    Win 10 Pro x64 1607 (Build 14393.953)

    Updating to VM-WIN10-15042u, received a double update definition for Windows Defender:

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    Resulting in:

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    Any thoughts?

    Cheers
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