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  1.    22 Feb 2017 #1
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    Intel should be very worried about AMD's Ryzen 7 processors


    For almost a decade AMD has yielded ground to Intel when it comes to processors, but the new Ryzen 7 chips change all that.

    For almost a decade AMD has yielded ground to Intel when it comes to processors, but the new Ryzen 7 chips change all that.

    Must read: Has AMD thrown Intel off its chip game?

    March 2 is the date that AMD will carry out a hard launch of three new Ryzen 7 chips that not only outperform Intel's high-end silicon, but do so at a fraction of the price.

    Model Base clock (GHz) Boost clock (GHz) TDP (Watts) Included cooler Suggested price ($)
    Ryzen 7 1800X 3.6 4.0 95 N/A $499
    Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4 3.8 95 N/A $399
    Ryzen 7 1700 3.0 3.7 65 Wraith Spire $329

    So why does Intel need to be worried? Here's why...


    Read more: Intel should be very worried about AMD's Ryzen 7 processors | ZDNet
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  2.    22 Feb 2017 #2
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    It's the same thing we saw AMD do with the original Athlon and then later with the A64 when Intel was forced to cancel the original Pentium architecture line (Prescott?) and go back to the drawing board and license x86-64 from AMD to build Core 2--only this time, AMD is under fantastic management and extremely well-positioned. Intel has even signed legal agreements with AMD in which it pledges not to pay companies to forgo selling AMD CPUs and core-logic products. The Ryzen launch will accomplish two very important things, imo:

    (1) It's going to let people see the extent to which Intel has been gouging them on the high end...

    (2)We will get to see if Intel has been sitting on a newer x86 architecture simply because no competition on the high end from AMD allowed it to milk the Core2 for a decade...and it's going to force Intel to drastically lower prices on its cpus if it desires to remain competitive with AMD on the x86 retail and server CPU fronts. I expect Ryzen to be faster and much less expensive than Intel's aging Core2-architecture CPUs, because, for one reason, the Ryzen architecture is much newer than what Intel is currently selling.

    We shall see...! Lisa Su, the CEO of AMD who deserves huge credit here, will ensure that AMD will henceforth keep the R&D pedal to the metal so that it will never fall off the CPU "meat-wagon" again, as it did several years ago under different management @ AMD. She's the reason I am so optimistic about AMD--she knows what to do--exactly what to do...and she's doing it/done it thus far!

    Great times ahead for consumers, imo!
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  3.    22 Feb 2017 #3
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    As far as gouging goes on the high end, nobody is required to spend the big $$'s for the top of the line. People choose to do that. The more affordable Intel CPU's were still sparking AMD for the past decade.

    With respect to AMD on the server front, I've never seen a server with anything but a Xeon processor. I know they exist, but I've yet to see companies use them.

    I hope AMD really does come to the table with powerhouse performance. It would be nice to have an option other than Intel when it comes to my home computers. The last AMD I had was an Athlon 64 X2-4400+. I expect to see a quick response from Intel.
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  4.    22 Feb 2017 #4
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    I'm not a fanboy for either one. But, I am waiting to see some user reviews. We have seen this game too many times from AMD. Remember all the hype about Bulldozer and again with Pile driver? We heard all the hype and saw a few "leaked" benchmarks about the new chips beating the Intel chips. When they came out, they couldn't come close to living up to their hype.

    I honestly hope the AMD chips do live up to their hype. That would be very good for all consumers. But, so far that I have found, there are no 'hands on' reviews. So, color me a skeptic. I've seen this movie before.
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  5.    22 Feb 2017 #5
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  6.    22 Feb 2017 #6
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  7.    22 Feb 2017 #7
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    All Intel can really do for now (until they release some new CPU's that is)
    is to drop the prices on their current lineup of CPU's.

    A nice reduction in the price of their Kaby Lake/Broadwell-E CPU's wouldn't be a bad move right now.

    A Core i7 6900k at 500 dollars you say?
    (Wishful thinking i know, but one could dream )
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  8.    22 Feb 2017 #8
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    I think Intel is likely going to wait and see if AMD really pops, or if they fizzle. I usually like to spend no more than $300 on my CPU. I usually spend around $300 on my video card too. I find that if you spend more than that, it still goes obsolete just as far as the $300 choice, so I just prefer to build a new box in a few years.
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  9.    23 Feb 2017 #9
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    AMD does this every 6-8 years. They spend a bunch of money to create a new architecture that beats Intel, but then they sit on it for years and let Intel decimate them. AMD just can't afford to create new architectures very often, and Intel has their Tick-Tock cadence which cycles the platform much faster than AMD can.

    So yeah, enjoy the cheap, fast CPU's while you can, as Intel will likely have a response within a year. And then it will take another 6-8 years before AMD is able to afford to cycle.
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  10.    23 Feb 2017 #10
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    I have read elsewhere that Intel has dropped its Tick-Tock strategy and that "Coffe Lake" is just around the corner. Exciting times ahead.
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