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  1.    05 Mar 2017 #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    there will be a 12 core for $1,000 and that is what the enthusiasts will be drooling over.
    Where? Where can I buy one?
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  2.    05 Mar 2017 #102
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    And then we'll be dumping them for the new 16 cores. It'll never end

    I've still got a Pentium II chip somewhere in my garage. Wonder if pparks wants it
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  3.    05 Mar 2017 #103
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    Drew, that would be fun too. If you have a board too, maybe I could overclock it to 500 MHz.
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  4.    05 Mar 2017 #104
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    Unfortunately I got rid of the board years ago. This is yet another box of old PC parts no longer relevant.

    I remember some years back I tried to build a Win 98 machine. Was much harder than I thought with finding drivers and compatible hardware/software. Was fun for a minute until issues started popping up all over the place
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  5.    05 Mar 2017 #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
    I've still got a Pentium II chip somewhere in my garage. Wonder if pparks wants it
    I have 2 slot 1 Pentiums in my basement. Think I have a Pentium II and a Pentium 3 (450)
    Pentium II - Wikipedia

    I remember my old Abit BH6 mobo that I ran dual celeron 300A's, overclocked to 450.

    At work I have run some ESXi hosts that had dual 12 core CPU's with hyper threading. 24 cores and 48 threads.
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  6.    05 Mar 2017 #106
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    See, I knew pparks would have a few ancient systems up and running. Probably worked the IT department on Atlantis before they went under

    BTW if you look at my Win 98 link you'll see a photo of a Pentium 3
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  7.    05 Mar 2017 #107
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    Oh, my old Slot 1's are not in running systems. I ran downstairs and it turns out I had 3 of them sitting on the shelf




    I recycled about 10 old computers about 2 years ago. Got rid of my Packard Bell 486-SX25. Got rid of some old 14.4 external US Robotics modems. Got rid of an old Colorado Jumbo 120 tape drive with an FC20 controller card.
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  8.    06 Mar 2017 #108
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    For the photographers out there using Photoshop, and/or Lightroom (me), and may be thinking about upgrading to Ryzen, Puget Systems did some initial tests with the 1700X Ryzen chip. Unfortunately they didn't have an 1800X to test at the time so take this with a grain of salt....

    Ryzen 7 1800X results are currently only placeholders! Other hardware reviews have shown the 1800X to be consistently ~5% faster than the 1700X, but we were not able to have a CPU available for testing prior to AMD's launch. We have a CPU on the way and will update this article with actual 1800X results in the coming weeks.
    with that...

    Really, the true test for Ryzen is how it compares to the Intel Core i7 7700K since that is currently the best CPU available for Photoshop. Unfortunately, Ryzen simply can't keep up with the i7 7700K which is both cheaper and significantly faster (around 23% on average). So if you are looking for a Photoshop workstation, we would advise you to skip Ryzen and stick with the Intel Core i7 7700K.
    Source: Adobe Photoshop CC 2017 AMD Ryzen 7 1700X & 1800X Performance

    It's basically the same with Adobe Lightroom (minus the 1800X). Anyway....

    Overall, Ryzen is unfortunately not a great choice for Lightroom. If you are concerned about general Lightroom performance, the Intel Core i7 7700K is significantly faster for most tasks and only 10-15% slower when exporting images. At the same time, if you do care about export times then the Intel Core i7 6850K is ~40% faster at exporting images along with being ~15% at everything else in Lightroom. Considering that Ryzen is also either slower or comparable to these two Intel CPU options in other programs like Photoshop, Intel CPUs are a pretty clear winner for photo editing and image processing workstations.
    Source: Adobe Lightroom CC 2015.8 AMD Ryzen 7 1700X & 1800X Performance

    Again, these are initial results and don't include the 1800X; however, the 1700X was tested so.... That said, I do wish Puget would have held off until they actually had an 1800X to test as well.
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  9.    06 Mar 2017 #109
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    Quote Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
    For the photographers out there using Photoshop, and/or Lightroom (me), and may be thinking about upgrading to Ryzen, Puget Systems did some initial tests with the 1700X Ryzen chip. Unfortunately they didn't have an 1800X to test at the time so take this with a grain of salt....



    with that...



    Source: Adobe Photoshop CC 2017 AMD Ryzen 7 1700X & 1800X Performance

    It's basically the same with Adobe Lightroom (minus the 1800X). Anyway....


    Source: Adobe Lightroom CC 2015.8 AMD Ryzen 7 1700X & 1800X Performance

    Again, these are initial results and don't include the 1800X; however, the 1700X was tested so.... That said, I do wish Puget would have held off until they actually had an 1800X to test as well.
    How much is Photoshop's performance on Intel over Ryzen is due Adobe optimizing for the Intel platform for Photoshop and/or Ryzen not really being as efficient (hardware-wise) against Intel's 7700K?
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  10.    06 Mar 2017 #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogerwilco91 View Post
    How much is Photoshop's performance on Intel over Ryzen is due Adobe optimizing for the Intel platform for Photoshop and/or Ryzen not really being as efficient (hardware-wise) against Intel's 7700K?
    Uh, yeah, that's what's being said. However this doesn't make the other players in the game cheaters. It simply means AMD's chips aren't ready yet. It's not like companies are intentionally "crippling" AMD's chips.
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