Windows 10: Mozilla Firefox 57 - Compatibility Milestones

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  1.    20 Feb 2017 #21

    Victek said: View Post
    I don't understand some of the reactions here. Mozilla is working to make Firefox faster, safer and more stable. When e10s is fully implemented with Sandbox restrictions it will be comparable to Chrome; tabs will run as individual, isolated processes. I'm already running Firefox 51 with multi-process enabled; performance is better and I've only lost one extension due to incompatibility. Mozilla is giving add-ons developers plenty of advanced notice so they have time to make their add-ons compatible.
    A lot of the theme developers don't feel that there is plenty of notice at all, so I wouldn't suggest that. A lot of developers actually share the belief that XUL isn't really slowing down the browser, it's just a management decision. Mozilla simply needs to tackle the Chrome market, which is not the power user.

    In 2003, the goal was to "stand up to the man" which was Microsoft and Internet Explorer. But that's not what's in fashion now. Mobile is. So that where the real fight is, and at present, Google has it sealed. And since no one really customizes a mobile browser, Mozilla likely figures why let users do that a desktop browser. Take "Classic Theme Restorer". Apparently, Mozilla loathes its existence, because it doesn't want users trying to kill the Australis interface. Mozilla wants you to accept what's given.

    I would be OK with all that if (a) I could put tabs below the address bar, (b) unhide the forward button, and (c) retain access to about:config.
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  2.    20 Feb 2017 #22

    Jody Thornton said: View Post
    Take "Classic Theme Restorer". Apparently, Mozilla loathes its existence, because it doesn't want users trying to kill the Australis interface. Mozilla wants you to accept what's given.
    How do you know that? At the moment the implementation of e10s is what's driving the need to update add-ons.
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  3.    20 Feb 2017 #23

    Victek said: View Post
    How do you know that? At the moment the implementation of e10s is what's driving the need to update add-ons.
    From quotes from theme developers in conversation with Mozilla employees.

    Besides, what sense does driving the need to update add-ons make, when they're about to be deprecated? That was like Dolby Labs creating Dolby S noise reduction once the compact disc had already taken over.
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  4.    20 Feb 2017 #24

    The blog comments overall don't sound that positive.
    The Road to Firefox 57 – Compatibility Milestones | Mozilla Add-ons Blog
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  5.    20 Feb 2017 #25

    Jody Thornton said: View Post
    The blog comments overall don't sound that positive.
    The Road to Firefox 57 – Compatibility Milestones | Mozilla Add-ons Blog
    Thanks for that link. I'm not a coder so I can't fully appreciate the comments, but I see that I was incorrect when I said that Mozilla was giving plenty of advanced notice to port add-ons. Apparently there are also quite a few abandoned add-ons which will be lost when support goes away. Perhaps people who want to can stay with the latest version of Firefox that works properly for them and turn off updates? Given the ongoing need to improve security and performance is there really an alternative to e10s, etc? It seems to me that isolating tabs and lowering the process integrity level are both desirable.
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  6.    20 Feb 2017 #26

    I certainly think that sandboxing and multi-process browsing may improve security and rendering. I guess those that want to avoid XUL-ageddon would just shift to the ESR release of Firefox v52. It's going to get interesting Victek
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  7.    20 Feb 2017 #27

    May get a stay of execution by using other Mozilla based Browsers however they will probably have to follow suit, unless there is a genuine Fork that has coders that can develop on the existing code?
    Best to wait and see what actually happens, rather than make decisions based on doom, gloom and speculation.
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       20 Feb 2017 #28

    Placebo said: View Post
    Just want to say that "Waterfox" is slick. Can't tell the difference. How ever I can't seem to figure out how to make it my default browser. W10 does not show it in the list ???
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  9.    20 Feb 2017 #29

    storageman said: View Post
    Just want to say that "Waterfox" is slick. Can't tell the difference. How ever I can't seem to figure out how to make it my default browser. W10 does not show it in the list ???
    Can it not be done using the Options section (under "General") in Waterfox?
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       20 Feb 2017 #30

    Jody Thornton said: View Post
    Can it not be done using the Options section (under "General") in Waterfox?
    Thanks that took care of it.
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