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  1.    22 Feb 2017 #421
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    Whatever the next build will be and even if some members will think "Why is he always repeating that? It has been told already!", I want to remind you geeks about this:

    If you want to get the next build as ESD upgrade you have to remember to disable UUP first. Now is a good time to check you are ready for ESD, instructions and downloadable registry files can be found in this post.

    Keep on your mind that UUP registry settings will always reset to UUP enabled / ESD disabled when you upgrade, and are set to UUP enabled / ESD disabled after a clean install. This means that even if you disabled UUP and got build 15031 as an ESD upgrade, your registry was reset when you upgraded and is again set to enable UUP.

    If you do not edit registry again leaving it as it is, you will get the next build as UUP upgrade.

    Kari
    You do not say this, but do I sense some fear that the UUPtoISO utility may not be able to produce a capable ISO for clean install this time around?
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  2.    22 Feb 2017 #422
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Arnold, MD
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    Triple boot - Win 10 Pro, Win 10 Pro Insider (2) - (and a sprinkling of VMs)

    Quote Originally Posted by Fafhrd View Post
    You do not say this, but do I sense some fear that the UUPtoISO utility may not be able to produce a capable ISO for clean install this time around?
    Chris, I don't think he meant that at all. It's just that it's a step that is easily forgotten and missed by some. It's sent as a reminder, as he has done over and over.
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  3.    22 Feb 2017 #423
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    A Finnish expat in Germany
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Fafhrd View Post
    You do not say this, but do I sense some fear that the UUPtoISO utility may not be able to produce a capable ISO for clean install this time around?
    No. We had the build 15025 when UUP to ISO did not work but that was due other issues in upgrade system, other than that it has worked perfectly. I have no reasons to believe it would not work in the future.

    Me repeating the importance to switch back to ESD if user prefers ESD is that the fact that an upgrade always automatically resets registry enabling UUP and disabling ESD is easily overlooked and forgotten. I'd rather post the reminder multiple times than later on post replies to questions like "Why did I get no ESD file? I checked and it was not there and now I have upgraded and can't make an ISO!".


    Quote Originally Posted by f14tomcat View Post
    Chris, I don't think he meant that at all. It's just that it's a step that is easily forgotten and missed by some. It's sent as a reminder, as he has done over and over.
    Exactly
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  4.    22 Feb 2017 #424
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    Portsmouth Hampshire
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    Windows 10 x86 14383 Insider Pro and Core 10240

    Thanks, it will be UUPtoISO again for me this time - not only was UUP experience faster, and I guess improved with 15031, but the UUPToISO process seemed to be smoother too.

    If the UUP process becomes truly a delta process, I guess that it will break the UUPtoISO model, since you can't use a differenced image to create a clean install - without reference to the installed software.
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  5.    22 Feb 2017 #425
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fafhrd View Post
    If the UUP process becomes truly a delta process, I guess that it will break the UUPtoISO model, since you can't use a differenced image to create a clean install - without reference to the installed software.
    Yes, that is true. I am keenly waiting to see which direction Microsoft will take. A truly differential upgrade would not contain everything required to create ISO.

    One possibility is of course if the upgrade is intelligent enough to allow ISO creation using both differential (changed and and downloaded) components as well as those from existing system which remained unchanged and were therefore not downloaded.
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  6.    22 Feb 2017 #426
    Join Date : Nov 2014
    Floyd, VA
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    Triple Boot Windows 10 IP Build 17025/Windows Server 2016/Debian Sid

    Uninstalled Hyper-V feature from Windows 10 (I still have it on Windows Server 2016).

    1) Installed Windows 10 Build 15025 in VMware WS 12.5.2 for Windows. It is now updating to build 15031. Signed in with the same Microsoft account as on my physical machine and the VM was automatically updated.

    2) Installed Windows 10 Enterlprise Build 15031 from a ISO made available from Wozar on MEGA file sharing system. The ISO was a mere 3.2GB and didn't ask me for a license key or Microsoft. Therefore it isunning well on a local account. I'll fiddle with the Windows Insider settings when a new build is announced here. BTW did I miss Dona's tweet that there will be no build today 2/22?
    Last edited by martyfelker; 23 Feb 2017 at 00:34.
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  7.    23 Feb 2017 #427
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    Floyd, VA
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    Triple Boot Windows 10 IP Build 17025/Windows Server 2016/Debian Sid

    Just found a program called Product Key on Betanews. Running it on my main showed a product key completely different from the one I installed Windows 10. The OS is activated. Has anybody else seen this?
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  8.    23 Feb 2017 #428
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    Serbia
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    W10 Insider + Linux

    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    Yes, that is true. I am keenly waiting to see which direction Microsoft will take. A truly differential upgrade would not contain everything required to create ISO.

    One possibility is of course if the upgrade is intelligent enough to allow ISO creation using both differential (changed and and downloaded) components as well as those from existing system which remained unchanged and were therefore not downloaded.
    If MS was to release an ISO at same time or just short time later, all of this would be non-issue.
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  9.    23 Feb 2017 #429
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    Quote Originally Posted by f14tomcat View Post
    Add to that the current apparent push to Enterprise Insiders.
    I'm guessing any Enterprise person sees all the warnings about not running Insider Previews on "production kit" and steers well clear. So no-one tests the Enterprise aspects during the Preview phase, then things break when it's released.
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  10.    23 Feb 2017 #430
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    A Finnish expat in Germany
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidY View Post
    I'm guessing any Enterprise person sees all the warnings about not running Insider Previews on "production kit" and steers well clear. So no-one tests the Enterprise aspects during the Preview phase, then things break when it's released.
    You've seen this: Windows Insider Program for IT Professionals?
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