Windows 10: Windows 10 build 10162 Released

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  1.    07 Jul 2015 #651

    Wynona said: View Post
    Hahahaha, can't resist.

    Long years ago, we had applications which for whatever reason became programs (programmers build programs?), then with the advent of phones and tablets (abbreviated computers), we found our way to apps.

    So, the way I keep it all straight in my own mind is that a program is a full blown application with a few gazillion bells and whistles, while an app is an abbreviated application with some, but a lot fewer bells and whistles.
    Programmers create apps, programs and applications. Just the use of a programming language to let people to do things they want to on a PC, Tablet, Phone.. etc.. But if your way makes it easy to understand.. stick with it!!

    Jeff
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       07 Jul 2015 #652

    Wynona said: View Post
    Hahahaha, can't resist.

    Long years ago, we had applications which for whatever reason became programs (programmers build programs?), then with the advent of phones and tablets (abbreviated computers), we found our way to apps.

    So, the way I keep it all straight in my own mind is that a program is a full blown application with a few gazillion bells and whistles, while an app is an abbreviated application with some, but a lot fewer bells and whistles.
    Sigh. I wrote a whole treatise on this upthread. 'App' has a particular meaning since Apple called their little software gadgets 'apps'. It is meaningful in the Windows 8+ era to differentiate between Apps and (Desktop) Programs. Microsoft does.
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  3.    07 Jul 2015 #653

    sgage said: View Post
    Sigh. I wrote a whole treatise on this upthread. 'App' has a particular meaning since Apple called their little software gadgets 'apps'. It is meaningful in the Windows 8+ era to differentiate between Apps and (Desktop) Programs. Microsoft does.
    They're still the same thing.. software to run on computers, tablets,, phones Etc. Apple still had to write their apps in code just like all of the other programs used on computers.
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       07 Jul 2015 #654

    Wenda said: View Post
    Just one from left-field - with the new start menu - wouldn't it be nice if, when you clicked on 'All Apps' you actually got APPS, and not PROGRAMS?

    Where the apps are now, is where my bloody PROGRAMS should be. Editable and customisable.
    Thank Ivo there's still Classic Shell...
    Wenda
    I don't EVER remember having to go through so much crap to get even the original Win 8 (which i hated at first) to work the way I want. WHY is Microsoft so determined to make me dislike 10??? Or at least, why make it so hard for me to change it so as I DO like it?

    They're close, but, so far, no cigar.
    wenda, while i'm glad the colored title bars will help make your windows experience better, you are totally preaching to the choir when it comes to wanting to make anything like windows 8 or 8.1. like 94% of all of the rest of windows users, i absolutely hate windows 8.1, no maybe loath would be the better word for it. and the further away from that os that windows ten can get, the better. but to each their own, if it ended up working well for you, then i'm happy for you. but i would fight tooth and nail to keep as little as possible in windows ten from being anything like windows 8.1. lol. however, just to try to be somewhat helpful, i believe even without a touch screen, you can go into tablet mode and make this os work a lot like the win 8.1 system did. or at the very least, there will be some dev's who will make programs to do so after the ga.
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       07 Jul 2015 #655

    Kari said: View Post
    Not caring about long rants, please jump to </End Rant of a Satisfied User> tag at bottom.

    <Start Rant of a Satisfied User>

    Back in my native greatly missed native Finland we have an old saying "One likes the mother, another prefers the daughter", meaning people tend to have different opinions and like different things. No two minds alike...
    \
    Yes! Geeks, I have no issues in understanding that my rant might be naive and make you wonder the level of my stupidity, but for me this is about the best Windows related news I could get.


    </End Rant of a Satisfied User>

    I just love 10162

    Kari
    i enjoyed your rant, kari.
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       07 Jul 2015 #656

    magilla said: View Post
    In EDGE, I cannot use markup feature. Is this now disabled? Or is this peculiar to my computer? (Two of them????)
    Hi there. Are you referring to Web note mode? If so, it works fine in mine.
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  7.    07 Jul 2015 #657

    There is no difference between app and application. They are synonymous.

    There *IS* a difference between an App or Application and a Universal App or Application.
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  8.    07 Jul 2015 #658

    Mystere said: View Post
    There is no difference between app and application. They are synonymous.

    There *IS* a difference between an App or Application and a Universal App or Application.
    But in the end they're all written in a computer language and thus a program.
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       07 Jul 2015 #659

    Mystere said: View Post
    There is no difference between app and application. They are synonymous.

    There *IS* a difference between an App or Application and a Universal App or Application.
    wow, a situation where mystere and i agree 100% on something. app is just short for application, and apple does NOT have the power to change the meaning of a word, although their glazed over eyed followers sure do think they can do anything and it's right. the situation is this, however similar they are, apps or applications are NOT the same thing as programs. programs can be apps, but apps can NOT necessarily be programs. applications are programs which depend on the os or human interactions. while programs have the ability to act without the os or human interaction.
    a good example is a word processor, it is an app, and so is the print spooler that allows you to print something. they are driven by the os or human intervention. but the os itself, or your bios, those are programs that act directly with hardware, without the need of an os or human intervention. that is the difference between an app (application) and a program. while they are NOT the same, they do overlap quite a bit.
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  10.    07 Jul 2015 #660

    STEVAE said: View Post
    wow, a situation where mystere and i agree 100% on something. app is just short for application, and apple does NOT have the power to change the meaning of a word, although their glazed over eyed followers sure do think they can do anything and it's right. the situation is this, however similar they are, apps or applications are NOT the same thing as programs. programs can be apps, but apps can NOT necessarily be programs. applications are programs which depend on the os or human interactions. while programs have the ability to act without the os or human interaction.
    a good example is a word processor, it is an app, and so is the print spooler that allows you to print something. they are driven by the os or human intervention. but the os itself, or your bios, those are programs that act directly with hardware, without the need of an os or human intervention. that is the difference between an app (application) and a program. while they are NOT the same, they do overlap quite a bit.
    And all of them are written in a computer programming language?? No?? Yes?? And therefore a program. A Word Processor is written in a computer language and it's a program.
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