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       03 Jul 2015 #371

    Edwin said: View Post
    Not! Programs are native applications within the OS, Apps are loaded from the 'Cloud'.
    "A computer "program" and an "application" (a.k.a. 'app') are one-in-the-same. The only difference is a technical one. While both are the same, an 'application' is a computer program launched and dependent upon an operating system to execute."

    So when you click on a word processor, for example, it is an application, as is that hidden file that runs the printer spooler launched only by the OS. The two programs depend on the OS, whereby the OS itself or your internal BIOS programming are not 'apps' in the technical sense as they communicate directly with the computer hardware itself.
    Unless the definition has changed in the past few years, commercial entities like Microsoft and Apple are not using the terms properly, preferring sexy marketing by making the term 'apps' seem like something new and popular in the market, because a "computer program" sounds too 'nerdy' so you are not correct in assuming apps are cloud based only. they are pretty much one in the same. and i'm not sure what is going on with your weather app, but when i click on my weather app, it opens fully in one or two seconds. i just timed it with my phone. it actually opened faster than i could click the stopwatch to stop. lol.

    one other thing, for the poster saying that people who wanted color on the title bar should just stick with win 7, that is a ridiculous statement. several posters misunderstood what he was saying. he is not saying he wants the windows 7 environment back, he was just using windows 7 as an example of what we could do when using it. and i agree with him, having allllllllllllllllllllllllllll of the title bars white, is not forward thinking technology. in fact, it appears to be very short sighted. the keys to this system being adopted as the best os worldwide, are security, ability, speed and customization. people want to be able to customize their computers to look and work any way they want. windows 7 got that right, and that is why it is the most popular os ever. it still makes up the highest perscentage of os's worldwide right now, at over 60%. there is a reason for that kind of popularity.
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       03 Jul 2015 #372

    STEVAE said: View Post
    "A computer "program" and an "application" (a.k.a. 'app') are one-in-the-same. The only difference is a technical one. While both are the same, an 'application' is a computer program launched and dependent upon an operating system to execute."

    So when you click on a word processor, for example, it is an application, as is that hidden file that runs the printer spooler launched only by the OS. The two programs depend on the OS, whereby the OS itself or your internal BIOS programming are not 'apps' in the technical sense as they communicate directly with the computer hardware itself.
    Unless the definition has changed in the past few years, commercial entities like Microsoft and Apple are not using the terms properly, preferring sexy marketing by making the term 'apps' seem like something new and popular in the market, because a "computer program" sounds too 'nerdy' so you are not correct in assuming apps are cloud based only. they are pretty much one in the same. and i'm not sure what is going on with your weather app, but when i click on my weather app, it opens fully in one or two seconds.
    Okay, I admit, my assumptions lack much knowledge.
    But, for instance, if the Weather App is native then where are the shortcuts and executables, etc. located?
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       03 Jul 2015 #373

    Edwin said: View Post
    Okay, I admit, my assumptions lack much knowledge.
    But, for instance, if the Weather App is native then where are the shortcuts and executables, etc. located?
    i assume m$ has that hidden for the time being. but give it some time and that will be revealed as people dig further and further into this os.
    for me personally, i don't think i will really start digging into this os, until at least the ga is out. there are way too many changes going on now to waste time with it. and while a lot of things will stay the same, there is just as big a chance that anything can change before then.
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       03 Jul 2015 #374

    heyyahblah said: View Post
    But I am not concerned about APPS. I'm going to delete them all anyways. My main concern is the Windows. A lot of us have multiple windows open doing multi-tasking and its hard to tell which windows you have active and which you don't because they are all simply white. To strip a color of the title bar is favoring their useless store apps, which there should be a separate setting for. It's very hard to see when everything is white at the top.
    Mystere has said a couple of times it will get ironed out, but they have other priorities right now, such as getting everything working stabile. For now just use these:

    Windows Key + Tab – This opens the new Task View interface, and it stays open — you can release the keys. Only windows from your current virtual desktop will appear in the Task View list, and you can use the virtual desktop switcher at the bottom of the screen to switch between virtual desktops.
    Alt + Tab – This isn’t a new keyboard shortcut, and it works just like you’d expect it to. Pressing Alt+Tab lets you switch between your open Windows. Tap Tab again to flip between windows and release the keys to select a window. Alt+Tab now uses the new Task View-style larger thumbnails. Unlike Windows Key + Tab, Alt + Tab lets you switch between open windows on all virtual desktops.
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  5.    03 Jul 2015 #375

    Wynona said: View Post
    Some of the stuff that's loaded into Windows isn't worth the powder to blow it up with! Same with stuff you get out of the Store, although Office for Windows 10 can be found there.

    When I use a program, I want to be sure that it can do everything I want it to do. If not, I find one that can . . . that's why I pretty much stay out of the Store. Come to think on it, a lot of what's in the Store used to come with Windows.
    Man, that is one weird statement.
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       03 Jul 2015 #376

    So, I don't know, probably everyone else in the whole world knows this, but me....
    I would click Start>All Apps and then have to scroll around to get to the program I needed. Scrolling to R for Reflect or P for Publisher or W for Word was a pain. I thought, hey - why can't I just press a letter on the keyboard after selecting All Apps, and it should take me to the programs (or apps) that begin with that letter? Why do I have to scroll? Now, keep in mind that the alphabet in my start menu disappeared several versions ago...

    So, by chance, I pressed WinKey + P and I got all my P programs, P apps, P folders and P photos.

    I am really slow I guess....
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       03 Jul 2015 #377

    simrick said: View Post
    So, I don't know, probably everyone else in the whole world knows this, but me....
    I would click Start>All Apps and then have to scroll around to get to the program I needed. Scrolling to R for Reflect or P for Publisher or W for Word was a pain. I thought, hey - why can't I just press a letter on the keyboard after selecting All Apps, and it should take me to the programs (or apps) that begin with that letter? Why do I have to scroll? Now, keep in mind that the alphabet in my start menu disappeared several versions ago...

    So, by chance, I pressed WinKey + P and I got all my P programs, P apps, P folders and P photos.

    I am really slow I guess....
    You should be able to just start typing the name(1st few letters are enough) to get the app, like in Win7 & 8
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  8.    03 Jul 2015 #378

    Edwin said: View Post
    I must admit, I've given up trying to make use of Apps. They take too damn long to load!
    If I want a quick peek at an image or screenshot, I want to do so immediately in Photo Viewer, not wait for the Photos App to load 'Pictures', OneDrive and all kinds of other destinations first.
    I can open my browser, navigate to The Weather Network and check the weather faster than the Weather App can load!


    Eh?

    From the press of the tile to full on animated weather graphics takes less than a second with the weather app. Where do you get this nonsense?
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  9.    04 Jul 2015 #379

    EMINENT said: View Post
    Eh?

    From the press of the tile to full on animated weather graphics takes less than a second with the weather app. Where do you get this nonsense?
    Maybe he's running an old 286 because I've got Windows 10 on old 1.6ghz Atom PC and it doesn't take that long.
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  10. Posts : 265
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       04 Jul 2015 #380

    also, there's nothing wrong with apps on a smartphone either. some of the coolest apps i have are on my phone. if i could use them on my computer, i would in a heartbeat.
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