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  1.    07 Feb 2017 #621
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    Do you have Intel system? By default (after each clean install and every build upgrade) this laptop I am using at the moment restarts when I select Shut down, and shuts down when I select Restart if computer is allowed to turn Intel Management Engine Interface off in device properties.

    Unchecking this option, not allowing it corrects this, Shut down and Restart working again normally.

    Not saying this is your issue, just worth to check.

    @Kari, I don't even have that option. Must be a lappy thing.

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    BUT I do have this running. Any connection?

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  2.    07 Feb 2017 #622
    Join Date : Oct 2013
    A Finnish expat in Germany
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    Quote Originally Posted by f14tomcat View Post
    BUT I do have this running. Any connection?
    No idea! I just know that as long as I remember to disable power options for that one Intel device, and disable Fast Boot in UEFI settings, my Shut down and Restart work normally.
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  3.    07 Feb 2017 #623
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by AndreTen View Post
    Also check, for any possible BSODs at shutdown. If you have "Automatically restart" checked this behavior could happen.

    Attachment 120269

    I haven't notice any BSOD. I will check my settings.
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  4.    07 Feb 2017 #624
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by f14tomcat View Post
    FWIW, I have both off, no hiberfil.sys, no Fast anything....and it sleeps/wakesup fine. If it keeps happening, might want to try disabling and deleting pagefile.sys and let the sys recreate it. Might be a dangling participle in there.

    I'll give that a try if turning off hibernate doesn't work.
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  5.    07 Feb 2017 #625
    Join Date : Jun 2014
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    Do you have Intel system? By default (after each clean install and every build upgrade) this laptop I am using at the moment restarts when I select Shut down, and shuts down when I select Restart if computer is allowed to turn Intel Management Engine Interface off in device properties.



    Unchecking this option, not allowing it corrects this, Shut down and Restart working again normally.



    Not saying this is your issue, just worth to check.






    EDIT: Forgot to mention that (at least in my case) Fast Boot must be disabled in UEFI settings in addition of above trick to allow normal Shut down and Restart.





    On another topic: My insomnia being very difficult at the moment, if I feel I could get some sleep I do not watch the time. A few hours ago at 4 PM I went to bed, managed to sleep two hours (first sleep in over 33 hours, since early yesterday morning). Put computer to sleep when going to bed, woke it up two hours later and this started immediately: Whenever I try to open File Explorer, I will get this and Explorer.exe will restart:






    It repeats itself as long as I keep File Explorer open, restarting Explorer.exe time after time, making File Explorer useless. Restart fixed it.



    This has happened two times before since installing 15025, always after a long sleep.

    I do have a intel motherboard. In the beginning I was able to shutdown by left clicking on the start button and choosing shutdown. The only thing I know I changed was turning hibernate back on. When I get home I'll try all the suggestions. If they don't work hopefully the next release will. 🙂
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  6.    07 Feb 2017 #626
    Join Date : Feb 2016
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    Windows 10 (Pro and Insider Pro)

    Quote Originally Posted by f14tomcat View Post
    @Kari, I don't even have that option. Must be a lappy thing.

    BUT I do have this running. Any connection?

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    That is Intel SATA / RAID driver / manager (Rapid storage manager)
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  7.    07 Feb 2017 #627
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    Windows 10 Pro (32-bit) 16299.15

    Quote Originally Posted by Fafhrd View Post
    One difference I have noticed over the past few build upgrades is that it was not possible to spy on the background processes using Shift+F10 to open a cmd console and from there
    Yeah I noticed that when trying to boot from the ISO too - it will be a pain if Shift-F10 doesn't work.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fafhrd View Post
    I long for the day when the choices contain ... Barry from Dudley West Midlands...
    Really?!
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  8.    07 Feb 2017 #628
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    Arnold, MD
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndreTen View Post
    That is Intel SATA / RAID driver / manager (Rapid storage manager)
    Yep, might override the power management option in device manager.

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  9.    07 Feb 2017 #629
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    Quote Originally Posted by f14tomcat View Post
    Yep, might override the power management option in device manager.

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    Ok, I misunderstood that post... IMEI doesn't have any connection to Rapid storage technology. It's lappy stuff to work with EFI. It works with legacy BIOS too, think it kinda replace old Intel inf utility. But don't pull my leg for it. Tried to understood it last year when I got new lappy, but it's described much in a way law books are written..
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  10.    07 Feb 2017 #630
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndreTen View Post
    Ok, I misunderstood that post... IMEI doesn't have any connection to Rapid storage technology. It's lappy stuff to work with EFI. It works with legacy BIOS too, think it kinda replace old Intel inf utility. But don't pull my leg for it. Tried to understood it last year when I got new lappy, but it's described much in a way law books are written..
    If it's lappy stuff, I understand the
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