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  1.    02 Feb 2017 #311
    Join Date : Feb 2016
    Maribor, Slovenia
    Posts : 8,960
    Windows 10 (Pro and Insider Pro)

    Quote Originally Posted by Fafhrd View Post
    It was an opinion, and I am also not getting a good experience with UUP.

    Perhaps "wimpy" is a stronger term of offence across the pond than over here, where generally it is a fairly good natured term for someone who is easily put off - if so, I apologise, but do not know a good alternative to replace it with.
    Here's Thesaurus.com's take on it with all the possibly offensive synonyms expurgated:
    Attachment 119586

    Sorry
    Sorry, couldn't help
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  2.    02 Feb 2017 #312
    Join Date : Sep 2014
    Posts : 388
    Windows 10 PRO 64Bit

    I don't mind being in the fast lane and testing stuff for free for Microsoft, however if I find a problem I will report it and if there is a work around like Wax-Off, I will do that. Now that I have 15025 installed I will go edit the registry to Wax-On again.
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  3.    02 Feb 2017 #313
    Join Date : Nov 2014
    Floyd, VA
    Posts : 1,130
    Triple Boot Windows 10 IP Build 17025/Windows Server 2016/Debian Sid

    OK. Here's what happened after the upgrade to build 15025

    1) NO install.esd. I use the Everything program and service to search.
    2) SupportUUP and EnableUUPScan have both been reset to enabled "1".


    If we want an install.esd we will probably have to create it ourselves. For myself I can wait for Microsoft to get around to releasing an ISO or if I'm desperate I hunt for a "warez"


    UUP is apparently here to stay. IMHO it is a scheme to reduce the load on Microsoft's update servers. They really should be transparent about this.

    I will say that disabling UUP with the registry hack resulted in a faster upgrade even if I didn't get the esd so I've disabled it again. After rebooting I'll check to see if the EnableUUPScan value is even there.

    And yes after I've backed up the current image (quite fast since I backup to a HDD - (I use my external HDD for Windows Server 2016 backups.) I will do a disk cleanup to free up disk space.

    So much for this update adventure. I'll get to the VMs when I get around to it.
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  4.    02 Feb 2017 #314
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Posts : 553
    ,7,8.1 10TP 10upgrade,MINT

    Two days running I have not been able to get past the initialising stage, I shall shut down and try again tomorrow.
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  5.    02 Feb 2017 #315
    Join Date : Mar 2016
    Posts : 14
    Windows 10 Home 64 bit

    Same here. I think I'm giving up on this build. How can you test this build when you can't even get it installed? Hopefully the next build will be easier to install...
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  6.    02 Feb 2017 #316
    Join Date : Dec 2013
    England
    Posts : 959
    Windows IP 17046

    Quote Originally Posted by tinmar49 View Post
    Two days running I have not been able to get past the initialising stage, I shall shut down and try again tomorrow.
    Hi,
    Let it initialise for 30-45mins, stop the update, go to Services and stop Windows Update service, after trying to stop you will get an error code and a message for failure, ignore it and reboot, check for updates,it will start installing the update.
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  7.    02 Feb 2017 #317
    Join Date : Jun 2014
    Posts : 5,529
    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    Everyone is allowed to an opinion but that one is a bit harsh, IMHO. If I can't get a build via UUP I can't test any of the updates and changes. What good does it do MS if I can't get the new build?? Yes, I can wait for a day or so for a new build via UUP but I've reported that UUP is buggy several times and they haven't fixed it yet.

    Using the ESD method is a known and I can get the new build fast and start testing without having to jump through hoops to get my hand on it. I did use WZOR to get a previous build due to the issues with UUP and I don't see any issues with that. It's a valid way to get caught up with insider builds.

    IMO, there's no need to criticize how each member tests and I bet that MS is getting lots of good feedback on that messy UUP procedure.
    Very well said!
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  8.    02 Feb 2017 #318
    Join Date : Jun 2014
    Posts : 5,529
    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by BugMeister View Post
    Attachment 119587

    - these are trying times..
    Very good advice.
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  9.    02 Feb 2017 #319
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Posts : 59
    Win 10 Home

    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    ...What good does it do MS if I can't get the new build?? Yes, I can wait for a day or so for a new build via UUP but I've reported that UUP is buggy several times and they haven't fixed it yet...
    I'm quoting the above because IMO it summarises the general feeling of users that are experiencing problems with UUP.

    But if I may add some comment...

    In the case of UUP, the data collected from those Insiders that fail to upgrade successfully is far more valuable to MS than data from machines like my own that update without a hitch. Regarding fixing the UUP delivery mechanism... it's been a little over 2 months notwithstanding the interruption of the holiday season. I'm prepared to give the devs just a little more time to meet their April deadlines.
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  10.    02 Feb 2017 #320
    Join Date : Feb 2014
    Posts : 9,366
    Windows 10 Professional

    Quote Originally Posted by tinmar49 View Post
    Two days running I have not been able to get past the initialising stage, I shall shut down and try again tomorrow.
    I hear a Ramones parody:

    "Twenty-twenty-twenty four hours to go I wanna be updated
    Nothin' to do and no where to go-o-oh I wanna be updated
    "...

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